Saw this in my adguard home query logs.
Brave is like the ExpressVPN of browsers
From Wiki:
Brave Software was founded in 2015 by Brendan Eich, creator of JavaScript and former Mozilla CEO who left the organization after coming under fire for his support of eliminating the right of same-sex couples to marry […]
and
In August 2016, the company had received at least US$7 million in angel investments from venture capital firms, including Peter Thiel’s Founders Fund […]
Should tell you everything you need to know.
I’d say being ‘privacy focused’ is just a stick to get non-tech savy/gullible people that want to protect their privacy to use it, without thinking about it twice. Personally, I believe there is 0% chance they don’t sell (or simply give) all data they can to Peter Thiel and Palantir.
…also to Facebook, also one of the investors. Brave has good privacy protections, but they are selective.
no, brave is just another crypto scam
People sadly believe so. Firefox, a few addons and you are good to go.
It boggles my mind how people still recommend Brave as a good browser for privacy.
The entire point of Brave from the beginning was their own Crypto currency that they wanted to shill.
In their early days they offered a bunch of Tech YouTubers some crypto (via affiliate links) in return for them shilling brave.Brave is basically just yet another Chromium reskin with custom branding, extra tracking and crypto bullshit bolted to it.
No, the builtin AdBlocker does not make it “worth it”. Stop recommending this pile of crap.
I tend to recommend Brave for the ones who aren’t technically savvy. For that, its good.
For me who is really into privacy, I’ve always felt uncomfortable with brave or any chrome based browser. So I go with TOR and LibreWolf
even tho most low level searches and recommendations gonna point towards brave as the private browser, all you need to just look at the options. its datafarming, its running in the background randomly, its an nftbro chrome.
Any decent person wouldn’t use brave.
https://www.christiantoday.com.au/news/former-mozilla-ceo-ousted-for-opposing-gay-marriage-makes-comeback-with-new-internet-browser-brave.html this is who you’re supporting.
Brave is a scam.
I’ve never really had a comfortable feeling about Brave. I have no substantiating evidence, it just seems a bit squirrely. Besides the Tor browser, LibreWolf, Waterfox, and FireFox are the only acceptable browsers as far as I’m concerned, tho I don’t come down on those seeking an alternative to Google Chrome.
Any alternative to brave in iOS with adblocker? (I know, probably use another OS)
Far as I remember any browser in iOS is a scam anyways because Apple forces any browser in their platform to be based off of the same engine as Safari.
Yea, fuck webkit
AFAIK at least in the EU because have to admit also browsers with a different engine as WebKit. WebKit is same as Blink a fork from the KHTML engine by KDE, butway less advanced as Blink or Gecko, who outscore WebKit in modern webformats. This is why Apple don’t want other browsers which make Safari obsolete. Anyway, sooner or later Safari will be the next IE.
Sooner or later? They already are lol
Yes, but I won’t be so harsh
Orion can use Chrome and Firefox plugins. Works great!
General practice, I do not use my phone as a compute platform. I realize others cannot do the same all the time. I do run firefox and a VPN which has an adblocker as part of it’s tool set.
Just use Firefox for gods sakes, Brave is a complete joke of a browser especially when it comes to privacy.
Yes, a lot of people believe it, FF devs discuting in Google groups, Vivaldi in a own Mastodon instance. Mozilla since time is an Google pet which can’t survive without the support from Google.
- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43340948
- https://groups.google.com/g/google-web-toolkit/c/QSEjbhhHB4g
It’s not the engine which use a browser, all engines are 100% FLOSS, it is important what you do with it.
Yeah, doing any kind of digging into Brave will immediately send up warning flares that the privacy claims are pure fluff. Just use Firefox or Librewolf.
Firefox is great. Librewolf if you’re extra keen on privacy.
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You can stop it in settings just like any other browser. I still will use Brave as my choice of browsers.
That’s the lie they try to sell you.
I swear Brave ran a very successful guerrilla marketing campaign and it succeeded on Reddit. If you so much as question it or suggest an alternative, you get dogpiled on by Brave bros. I don’t trust it one bit. I’ll stick to FF and its forks.
Exactly. Same with Opera GX whatever, which is just a weird chinese spying chrome, with nothing to do with Opera from the good old days when it was still Norwegian (Vivaldi is made by those guys still).
PrivacyGuides being among those bros.
Yeah, haven’t they done a ton of shady shit? I always cringe when people recommend the Brave browser. It’s like recommending a free VPN.
Brave is a protection racket wrapped in a cryptocurrency scam, created by a bigoted fuckwit. It is fractally shit.
Apparently Brave’s got some cryptocurrency components, so I guess that’s where the cult-like following is.
the crypto browser? it’s not private and never was
better than stock chrome or edge. Not better than Mullvad Browser.
Why I recommend against Brave - Luca Bramè.
This article is a pretty good breakdown of why you shouldn’t use Brave.
I use Vivaldi, it’s IMHO the only decent Chromium browser, apart European, with a good privacy, no logs, no tracking no third party investors. great services and community.
I think Vivaldi is source-available, but it’s proprietary otherwise due to a BSD license that allows for source-availability.
Yes, it’s proprietary because some script parts are. It’s not so easy to go full OpenSource for an Chromium browser which is more an online suite than a simple browser, because Google and M$ will kill to be able to fork it for Chrome and EDGE, which will have catastrophic aftermaths for all other Chromium browsers, include Vivaldi. Way easier to be OpenSource for simpler Chromium or Gecko forks. Anyway I think in a market saturated with browsers (over 100 different), beeing OpenSource isn’t in the main interest for the user anymore, prevailing more the ethics and transparency of the manufactor, 100% given in Vivaldi. Apart, as say, it’s the only decent browser from the EU on level eye with the US big Brother browsers. Alternatively there is Mullvad, butit is , apart of the privacy features, a very basic browser, more an platform for the Mullvad VPN, no own sync, only with Mozilla, Konqueror with the KHTML engine by KDE is discontinued, same as sadly the French UR browser. Thats it.
