McDonald’s installs phone cleaning devices.
The systems operate on the basis of ultraviolet technology.
These systems, powered by ultraviolet technology, destroy up to 99.9% of germs within 30 seconds while customers wash their hands.
I’ll “clean” your device! Just let me handle it for a few seconds…have you installed my app yet? It gives me…you, roo…hmmm cool powers and access to the cleaning system interface…yeah that’s right, I need access to the cleaning interface.
So many bathrooms in Japan don’t even have hand soap or toilet paper. I can’t possibly imagine this taking off.
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I didn’t have this issue at all when I visited. Although maybe you’re talking more rural than touristy places…
No, I lived in Japan and have visited all over. It’s more an issue in men’s bathrooms than in women’s to not have soap, based on my conversations. In women’s bathrooms, it’s common to not have toilet paper, and people carry around tissues. This is more of a city thing than a rural thing. In the cities, people pass out tissue packets with advertisements in them (as a job) and people carry those around and use them in the restrooms.
Edit: It might be the case that places which have more tourists don’t have this problem as much. That’s still not my experience, however.
Ten years in Osaka here. I don’t recall this ever being an issue.
I was just in Japan for about 4 months, mostly Tokyo. Id say somewhere around a quarter of public men’s rooms I used didn’t have soap dispensers. Taiwan was worse though - most baffling was the lack of soap on my plane to and from Taipei
Japan is doing it No way it works here
What? Am I not understanding you correctly?
No. The article is about Japan and I commented about Japan.
And you were being sarcastic? Otherwise I still don’t understand ^^
No.
Wow, since you explained your point this well, I now totally get it /s
Nvm I guess
I’m sorry you don’t understand, but that’s really on you.
Because it’s in Japan, I’d probably use it. If this was in New York, I probably wouldn’t be in that bathroom in the first place.
How well is that actually going to work? UVC sterilization usually takes much longer than 30 seconds.
WOTA claims 99.9% sterilization via UV-C. Does Japan have false advertising laws? I genuinely don’t see how it can be that fast, but like, it would be dumb to make difficult-to-believe claims if you could be sued for it.
Anyway, mostly unrelated, I used one of these there and I didn’t care if it was that effective. Wasn’t gonna be holding my phone for that span, so any sterilization is nice.
Just because you don’t see how it can be that fast doesn’t mean you should immediately jump to false advertising. Think of it like cooking chicken to a safe temperature, you can do it sous vide at a lower temperature and still get safe chicken it’ll just take 8 hours or you can throw it in an incinerator at a thousand degrees and have it sterilized in a few seconds.
Sterilized is more than just the amount of time it’s also the amount of exposure, an extremely strong UV light needs significantly less time than a weaker one
Oh lol. I said that cause I was inclined to believe it due to false advertising laws. Hence, it would be dumb to make such a grand claim and open yourself up to liability [if it weren’t true]. The anecdote after was worded as mostly unrelated because it wasn’t about the effectiveness, but the convenience of the little unit
It’s dose dependent not just time dependent. LED uv-c emitters can pump a huge dose onto a surface from a short distance such as this device does.
This recent study showed viral inactivation using such shorter time frames.
That’s weird, there’s a place 10 minutes away from me (W Europe) that has them installed in the bathrooms.
It’s just a slot in which you put your phone. You wait for it to beep and you take it out again. Ideally while you’re washing your hands.
is the remaining 0.01% of bacteria becoming superbugs?
It says UV so probably not. Otherwise we’d already be fucked from sunlight and Instagram models tanning.
that sounds plausible, how is it different with UV?
Drugs kill germs by messing with their biological systems. They target specific processes, like preventing enzyme from properly bonding so that it fails to do something important in the reproductive cycle or whatever. If a new generation of bacteria evolve such that that specific process works differently, it could kill the effectiveness of the drug. And that’s what happens when something becomes resistant to a certain drug. Suddenly the aforementioned enzyme and the reproductive cycle are ever so slightly different, and as a result the drug can’t do what it used to do, at least not as effectively.
But UV just straight up breaks up the bonds between molecules. There’s nothing biological about it, its destruciveness is entirely physical. The photons get in there and start destroying molecules, living or not. It’s not easy or likely at all for a strain of bacteria to randomly evolve resistance against physical destruction at a molecular level. They’re generally too small to have a protective layer to shield them against that, like our skin does.
I’ve seen these being marketed as the big new thing for ages. I think they had some on Shark Tank. Covid probably helped them along.
It’s cool, I want to know how it works! But I don’t trust it. All it takes is an accidental moment of suction to destroy a microphone or moisture seal. Or maybe someone accidentally dropped a bobby pin or something in there that could damage the charging port? That’s all it would take to basically ruin my phone…
I also don’t trust the employees to care or know how to safely remove a phone if a motor died or the building lost power… But I realize I’m paranoid! 🤷♂️
It’s a bit narrow with lots of moving parts. Maybe a clamshell setup would be easier and more usable with different phone sizes / accessories?
Not sticking my phone in there.
But but… It was made for me! Th-this is my hole!
