• xenomor@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    JFC. It’s almost like Biden is trying really hard to lose the election.

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      10 months ago

      Because stopping terrorists attacking ships from all over the world is a bad thing he’s done?

      Like I hate the guy, but this is probably one of the few instances of the broken clock being right.

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        I don’t really get it, what’s even to “hate” about Biden in the first place?

        People trash on him for ending the war in Afghanistan, because I guess we’re all supposed to act surprised that the Taliban just walked right back in and took power even though that’s what every expert was saying was going to happen even before the war started. Last time I checked, we all wanted the forever wars in Iraq and Afganistan to end.

        Republicans trash him for giving arms and spending money on Ukraine, even though they’re the victim of Russian imperialist aggression.

        People trashed on him for not calling for a ceasefire on Hamas, until he did call for it and it happened, after which people trashed on him because the war just started back up because neither Hamas nor Netenyahu were willing or able to back off. Biden didn’t start the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, nor was he the first or only US President to arm Israel (who are one of our only allies in the area), nor did he move the pieces that initiated this round of post-Oct 7th fighting, so it’s frankly the world’s biggest stretch to blame him for it.

        And so now people want to trash on him for bombing the Houtis, who are terrorists who have been openly pirating ships on key global trade routes, and who have been warned multiple times that they would face retaliation if there were to continue doing it. We basically told these Houti morons “fuck around and find out” and now they’re finding out so we all have to pretend to have bleeding hearts for him.

        “Hating” Biden while the very real specter of Trump looms over the 2024 election is just nonsense to me.

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          He’s unironically my favorite President in my lifetime. History will remember him fondly no matter how hard far right fascists and tankies try to alter the truth

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          People trashed on him for not calling for a ceasefire on Hamas, until he did call for it and it happened,

          When did he call for a ceasefire? Not a temporary truce, a ceasefire. Also people hate him because he keeps funding Israel.

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            Also people hate him because he keeps funding Israel.

            That’s not a Biden problem which would be solved by voting for Trump.

            That’s US foreign policy problem.

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              It’s not something Trump would solve, yeah, but it’s very much a Biden problem. He’s going so far as to bypass Congress to do it. Past presidents actually used their influence over Israel to do something.

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          He’s a NeoLib capitalist, whose actions in the past have caused much harm to society (e.g. crime bill).

          I really struggle to see what’s to like about him.

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            10 months ago

            It’s kind of crazy that you had to go back to 1994 to find something concrete to criticize Biden for.

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              Oh I can fault him for things today as well, but I like to set a precedent to show a history of bad decisions.

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                  His inability to act in regards to Palestine and his continued support for Israel going so far as to fast-track weapons to them yet he’s unable to do so for Ukraine.

                  It doesn’t matter if he started it or not, he plays one of the the most pivotal roles in what’s happening at the moment.

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                    You should be mad that Israel is getting weapons when Ukraine isn’t.

                    But not at Biden.

                    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-sets-test-vote-ukraine-aid-despite-republican-opposition-2023-12-06/

                    When it comes to Gaza…

                    There is no US President, real or hypothetical, who would stop military support of Israel in the wake of the October 7th attacks. And there is no US President, real or hypothetical, who is going to call for a permanent ceasefire in Gaza before every last Israeli hostage is accounted for.

                    Biden’s policies on Israel so far are not far even from someone as left as Bernie Sanders, because rational minds understand that there is no simple solution to middle east peace, nor has there ever been.

                    We’d all like to see Hamas release their hostages, and Israel to release those who have been held without due process. We’d all like to see an end to the violence and hostility, and an end to the era where both Israel and Palestine are under the control of fascist authoritarian regimes. Sadly it’s not as simple as sending Jared Kushner over or whatever delusional shit Americans want to come up with next.

                    I’d love to see every last dollar of the US defense budget go to whooping Putin’s ass in Ukraine, but that’s also not very realistic.

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        10 months ago

        Why not, um, just restrain Israel instead? Because we Americans value dead Palestinians more than we fear inflation.

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          10 months ago

          So the Houthis get carte blanche to attack international trade routes because something someone Israel?

          Hard to believe we’re still making people this dumb. Darwin must have gotten something wrong.

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      10 months ago

      Because letting shitheads affect a major shipping route and cause another supply shortage and more inflation will surely win him it!

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        You do realize that there’s another way to make them stop doing it, don’t you?. That other way also has the side effect of murdering significantly fewer innocent Palestinians. It would also act to prevent the conflict from spreading regionally.

        I realize that retraining Israel would deny us Americans our dead brown people high, but come on, think of all the inflation we could prevent by not killing them.

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          That’s a mighty huge brush you’re painting 300+ million with, skippy.

          Unfortunately, those types of people never stop. They would immediately see that as a major sign of weakness and would expand on the attacks, targeting more ships over a larger area. Any hoo, those ass hats are now toast, so any sympathy you have for them might as well be vaporized with them.

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            It worked so well in Afghanistan, might as well repeat it in Yemen

            Unfortunately, those types of people never stop.

            And we’ll never stop as long as you are all the way over here. As if attacking us would do anything except motivate us to resist. What a racist and chauvinist world view.

            The US aids Israel in its genocide, and our resistance is the problem. What a lopsided logic but whatever. Nobody in the world, nobody in history, has ever gotten their freedom by appealing to the moral sense of the people who were oppressing them.

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              Your “resistance” consists of kidnapping Filipino crewmen. Truly a bastion against US tyranny

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                And your western world “defense” consists of years of continuing crimes against humanity and genocide. Truly the leaders of human rights and freedom

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                  You must’ve responded to the wrong comment, I never said anything about defence.

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      It’s actually super based to blow up terrorists attacking container vessels.

      You can either shut the fuck and bitch about inflation (which is driven up by Houthi attacks) or you can go on a weird demand for a ceasefire but acknowledge paying higher prices for goods is a necessary side effect of allowing Houthis to terrorize shipping lanes.

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        So your entire argument is founded on the assumption that Ansar Allah is not the legitimate government of Yemen. That, just because they have de jure independence over a territory, they lack de facto independence because the territory is still contested by a government-in-exile.