• ramble81@lemm.ee
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      Yeah I hate the phrasing of the headline. Makes you sounds like they did turn it over. And then you get that last part of the sentence.

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    a) discussions aren’t a crime.

    b) what are studios going to do to the hundreds of millions of daily pirates? Write stern letters?

    c) they tried identifying us and sending us stern letters in 2001 and we all laughed, then kept pirating anyway.

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      b and c) Go after the ISPs who don’t disconnect the pirating users and sue them instead. Go after the deep pockets.

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        They did that too. Most ISP’S outside of Comcast shrugged as well. The studios lost this fight almost 2 decades ago.

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      Yes they will write stern, spooky letters to the tone of “give us money or get sued”. Then they take the money they get, and sue no one because they have no evidence.

      It’s basically a 419 scam, but with lawyers

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    There’s like 2 decent movies released per year. I think people can do without.

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    Or, perhaps it would be more cost effective to spend your money developing a way to access content that isn’t user-hostile. Then, suddenly, piracy wouldn’t be on the rise.

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    I’m very surprised that Reddit didn’t immediately bend the knee. If they succeed in going public this policy will not continue

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      if they gave in for one, they would be in for all

      so they have to fight to be forced so they don’t have to answer every request

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      Probably because the brown envelope wasn’t think enough.

      I’m sure for the right “incentive” they’ll happily cooperate.

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    I said this on the last repost as well.

    Obviously there are reasons the film studios want that but actually getting information because you suspect someone crimes a bit too hard online is really tough. Your evidence must be waterproof to get a subpoena and until then you can run into a plathera of different issues thanks to airtight GDPR rules that still apply to US companies as well (they updated them to be even more strict with their newer compliance laws last year).

    Actually there’s a good chance that sharing data or IPs without a subpoena could be not only devastating to any potential legal case, but also to Reddit. They will never do this because they stand to gain nothing from it as is and if they wanna go IPO they can’t pull such shakes moves rn.

    Obligatory IANAL, if you need legal advice, ask a lawyer because they need all your context and they will know the ins and outs of their field.

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    This must be the reason every piracy community I know has strict rules about not requesting specific titles. Even if they had the IPs, I’m not sure what they could prosecute, especially considering the number of users who use a VPN.

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      Honestly, it’s not worth their time to come after the people pirating, but rather, the people enabling the piracy to take place. In other words, users have nothing to worry about, it’s the websites hosting the torrents, that need to worry.

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        Or the ISPs in this case. They want the information about the pirates to use them as witnesses to show that the ISP didn’t terminate copyright infringing users, even when notified dozens of times and to show that the ISPs benefitted from these practices by retaining them as paying customers.

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    Strange, my reddit account seems to have had all its posts and comments deleted and my IP leads back to Proton. Oopsy daisy. Get fucked clowns.

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      “In compliance with your request, we’ve looked through our posts and IP logs and have determined that all commenters discussing piracy were coming from the same subnet: 0.0.0.0/0”

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      Poor man’s TOR :).

      It’s not completely inconceivable that ISPs using CG-NAT could keep logs that would allow these users to be deanonymized, but it’s an extra step and they might not have enough information between the Reddit and ISP logs to do it. But… they’d have to be talking to the ISPs anyway, and the ISPs will probably cooperate?