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  • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com
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    the use cases ive seen would never use this, like 911. having run a 911 center, this product would never be implemented despite the 8 giant monitors at each station.

    this is just an incredibly niche product, with very niche uses… and realistically its a toy that might be also used by some very specific industries.

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      Why not? it’s a lot more space efficient; it’s a lot more power efficient. The only thing holding it back is cost and comfort. I’m a developer rocking 4 monitors standard for work and I can absolutely imagine a world where I just have a desk, a keyboard, and a headset.

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        its about use case. in a 911 center, for example, all people need immediate access to all information in the room… often personnel not sitting at that station it is a non-static environment for a plural audience.

        and cost is not really an issue anymore. giant, flat screens are Dirt cheap. this will never, ever be cheaper than the equivalent. they have new monitor tech rolling out that is literally like wallpaper.

        i just cannot envision a generic use case that would make it popular

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          In 911 centers does anyone use a headset for answering calls or are all calls only on loud speakers?

          AR/VR could work the same. You have your private view screen just like you have your headset. When you press a button, your view becomes public on a large standard display that anyone can see just like when you press a button to switch from headset to loud speaker.

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            a little of both. they wear headsets and have little local speakers per station. in a room you can get a pretty good idea of what each station is doin if youre within range

            but this all just sounds like extra, more expensive steps to whats currently happening. this is a product begging for a problem to solve… and remember, existing solutions are continually cheaper and easier to implement.

            also, no op is going to want to wear some giant head thing for a 12 hour shift. reminds me of when they pushed touchscreens like it was the end-all be-all of compute (even in 911!) turns out no one wants to keep raising their hand constantly for 12 hours.

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              also, no op is going to want to wear some giant head thing for a 12 hour shift.

              Who would want to wear a headset for 12 hour shift? I get irritated after an hour of wearing headphones.

              I got my kids some Quest 2’s last year and it’s amazing. So I can see in 10 years it might be good for productivity. Dismissing it because it isn’t useful for 911 call centers is kind of ridiculous.

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                my only point is that it will be a toy, or for niche applications. this isnt going to be a an ipad-level device.

                i think you can find a direct parallel in the amount of touch screen desktop interfaces today.

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                  But it’s a replacement/supplement for a monitor in the same way an iPhone is a replacement for an old style cell phone. The iPad is an extremely niche solution but there are still enough niches for it to sell well.

                  Smartphones had many drawbacks compared to old phones too. The only huge problem with the Apple AR is the price.

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                  my only point is that it will be a toy, or for niche applications.

                  Your only point is the same point people with no idea of how things work have been making since forever. “It’s just a fad”. This was claimed about cars, about the internet, about computers, about videogames… Literally anyone who’s out of touch with reality and resents their lack of creativity or ability to think of a use for a groundbreaking technology positions themselves this way. It’s not new, and maybe it’s sometimes worth debating, but not when you follow it up with something like this:

                  this isnt going to be a an ipad-level device.

                  The iPad? Really? That’s your idea of a gamechanger? If you think ipads are anything except “a toy” and “for niche applications”, you’re living your wildest years, my dude.

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          10 months ago

          we know you can’t lol

          that doesn’t mean they don’t exist though

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              10 months ago

              But you set up one example, just to knock it down. What about people who WFH? This sounds great for them.

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              Dude you obviously aren’t going to listen.

              You decided this product isn’t going to be useful for anyone because you personally don’t see any utility.

              You’re personally offended Apple didn’t make a VR headset for you. I’m sorry kid.

              What I don’t get is the caustic hostility you’re displaying in this thread about a product for creative professionals and tradesmen (of which you are neither).

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          I don’t understand this. Using something like this would give people more immediate access to all the information in the room and increase the amount of information they have access to. Your vision isn’t obscured with this. That’s why they’re calling it a “spatial computer”.