• Swarfega@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    This is the same with everything. Twitter, Google, Facebook, Netflix, Amazon, Apple etc. They all shit on their users, people complain but then they just accept it. As long as people just keep sucking it up they’ll continue to do what they want.

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      6 months ago

      Yeah it pisses me off the way people are like “tech bros ruined the internet”. No, users ruined it! There was no reason to stop self-hosting webpages, forums and IRC servers. Users switched to Facebook instead because they preferred it and didn’t care about the downsides. There’s an alternative to every website and app which respects privacy, serves no ads, and has no algorithm to farm your outrage. Users refuse to use them because they aren’t cool enough.

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        Users switched to Facebook instead

        It’s more like: those who couldn’t be bothered to make and maintain their own site, went to normie platforms.

        You still have stuff like http://geekring.net/

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        Yeah it pisses me off the way people are like “tech bros ruined the internet”. No, users ruined it! There was no reason to stop self-hosting webpages, forums and IRC servers. Users switched to Facebook instead because they preferred it and didn’t care about the downsides. There’s an alternative to every website and app which respects privacy, serves no ads, and has no algorithm to farm your outrage. Users refuse to use them because they aren’t cool enough.

        You got a point there, though I think it’s users and corporations who both ruined it. And why ? Because users were not well informed and did choose for easy solutions without caring about privacy. At the last Tw(X)tter Exodus to Mastodon you could see several vocal new Mastodon users complain about not having a quote option. And probably several of them stopped using Mastodon for that. People have strong opinions and when they can choose to communicate with most of them friends with things like Facebook they go for that rather than having to spend time on exploring more privacy friendly options. And why ? Because there is so little time and because technology is scary for a lot of “normies”. I believe that is the success of Apple : shiny looking white design and easy of use. No plug & pray but easy peasy communication. Never mind the high prizes and walled pay garden. Ease of use and design is top priority for some. Does it makes sense to re-educate people and inform them ? I believe yes, but only if they are interested and have some spare time.

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      6 months ago

      Yes :( Self inclined vendor lock-in ™. I hope for more new Linux users (unless it does not fit their use case very well) who are willing to learn and spread the word!

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        Linux mint and Fedora 40 user here!

        I am still trying linux out, so far, everything is great! I mostly just use my PC for web surfing and games though,

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      6 months ago

      Yep. Change requires actual change.

      And it also generally requires more energy than working with the current system, unless and until it becomes the default.

      You want free-range grass-fed beef that is slaughtered with reasonably low suffering? Pay more for that, until it becomes the system.

      You want an operating system that isn’t screwing you over at every opportunity? Use a Linux distro, and pay for ease or pay with learning how to make it do the things you think I should.

      I’m happily using Linux as my daily driver, and have been for ages. I’ve gotten over the need to tinker as much - I just use it, report bugs when they matter to me, and live life.