• plz1@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Some day, we’ll have a technology sub that isn’t polluted with Twitter “news”.

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      It’s a tech company that is burning itself to a ground. Hard to take your eyes off of a slow moving car crash.

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          And remind ourselves that it find very easily happen to the fediverse! All it takes is mass defederation, some vulnerability, anything ego driven… humans still run this platform and it wouldn’t take much to bring it down.

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      On Reddit I’ve found most of the news about the big social networks is posted by only handful accounts, they also don’t post other interesting things, so you can just block them.

      I’m hoping that’ll work on Lemmy as well.

    • Cheers@sh.itjust.works
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      This is a bit of a learning experience though.

      The big tech companies advocated during 2020 that they were not biased and should not be held responsible for policing the Internet.

      Since then, FB swapped to Meta to cover up the documents showing FB is intentionally causing psychological damage our children because it gives them more clicks/view time.

      OpenAI scraped the Internet, legally and illegally to power ChatGPT.

      Twitter, a social media company known for free speech, was bought by Musk, a former Trump associate. Trump was reinstated during this period and dissent was banned.

      Google decided to push web DRM to force us to use their software or else we can’t access the Internet.

      Sounds like they very much want to police the Internet. We just aren’t putting the pieces together in a collective way.

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        OpenAI scraped the Internet, legally and illegally to power ChatGPT.

        I’m not a huge OpenAI fan, but it’s not yet been determined that they acted illegally. I believe the matter is still being pursued in court.

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          I think people are too focused on the scraping, which is clearly not illegal, but is what the roch people who own the websites are hollering about because they wanted to make money off of selling the posted content they did not actually own

          Open AI’s implementation of image creation in the style of a particular artist using copyrighted works is going to be the big outcome.

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            It’s not illegal for a person to learn things online. That’s one of the original purposes of the “world wide web” when it was opened to universities.

            It is illegal to copy someone’s brand and use it to make money. These chat bots are literally charging people to take input like “write a story in this author’s style” and outputting a story that is a poor mimicry. The main problem is they are charging money based on someone else’s trademark. Not that they write a similar story.

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    Salon.com articles always sound like a 21 year old Redditor wrote them.

    “The grifters that make up the troll-industrial complex are not okay.”

    Who writes this lmao. Do they spin a wheel of buzzwords and just write a sentence with whatever comes up?

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      It made sense to me and I didn’t even look twice. Ben Shapiro, Tucker Carlson, Jordon Peterson, etc. = the grifters that she talks about in the article, and the “troll-industrial complex” are their paid followers or their suckered in fan boys. It’s been a thing since 2015 at least.

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        Yeah I mean if a 4 year old talks to me I can usually decipher what they are trying to say.

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    Always remember to never feed the trolls. It’s a very basic Internet rule that we should have continued to follow. Block and move on

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    Does anyone know where the normal people are going though? I suspect Mastodon and tiktok? At least the young ones.

    All this, Ryan said, explains why the trolls “are getting more extreme and desperate.” The pool of people available to get attention from is shrinking, so the only way to keep the engagement rates as high is to say wilder and nastier things. But eventually, there will be so few people on Twitter left to aggravate that even white nationalist dogwhistling and Holocaust denialism won’t work.

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      Mastodon would be my personal preference, but Bluesky seems pretty noisy to me, which seems like what people want from microblogging sites (I’m more of a reddit/lemmy/kbin style person, myself.) The question is whether Bluesky pulls a Google+ and stays invite-only for so long that they miss their own hype train.

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        So you tried it? I haven’t known anyone that have tried it. A journalist said that the existing users are rude about newbies because they want it to themselves but I’ve seen a lot of bad reporting about Lemmy. Did you find it cranky about new users?

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          Keep in mind that I barely use it and only follow a few people I followed from TwiX.

          People seemed friendly enough but there is a lot of self-serving navel gazing, and it seems like the “Discover” feed is full of inside jokes/references that I don’t use the app enough to get.

          My first day the big thing was complaining about how terrible and bigoted the devs of bluesky were, for something they said that I never did figure out, and the subsequent complaining about people complaining about the devs. Very dramatic.

          To be fair, I’m sure if you just followed the people you cared about, and avoided the discover feed, it would be pretty Twitter-like.

          Also, there’s a character limit and you can’t edit. These aren’t technical limitations anymore, like they were for Twitter at the beginning, so they must be design decisions.

          If I had an invite left I’d give you one.

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            Also, there’s a character limit and you can’t edit.

            That kills any interest I might have had. I make embarrassing typos often enough that editing is a must-have feature.

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              I would expect that to be an upcoming feature, similar to how Threads is bolting on things like DMs. That’s probably part of why it still requires an invite.

    • I am become Noodle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      This is speculation but I suspect people are already oversubscribed to social media and just spending a bit longer in other places they already go. So if they’re on Discord, they’re probably just spending more time there.

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      I have come over a few Reddit communities who moved to Discord of all things. I don’t get why. That isn’t even remotely the same type of discussion platform.

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        Discord has its uses but it’s very much not the same. I often can’t even find my question I asked an hour later.

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        I’m really not a fan of Discord. Why would anyone use a platform that’s not accessible without making an account and requires an invite to each group? If it wasn’t branded towards gamers I don’t think it would have much appeal.

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          Imo it’s because sites like reddit make communities too open. It’s common knowledge that once a sub regularly makes it to r/all, it loses all identity and joins the vague soup of r/all content which everyone upvotes with no regard for the source.

          A lot of people don’t want one big page with all the biggest communities thrown together. They just want to follow what they like and nothing else.

          That said, the chat room format of discord is a pretty awkward stand-in for a forum type of community.