• Vikthor@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    You are discussing on a platform created by a man who praises people like Lenin & Castro. Richard Stallman resigned over some comments on Epstein victims. Free software is like that sometimes.

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      Free software is like that sometimes.

      Anything is like that. The inventors of a great many things weren’t good people. Just because people do great things, doesn’t mean they are great people. Nazi doctors found out a lot about the human body by torturing them and/or treating them inhumanely. Probably a lot was discovered during the torture of humans and ignoring human rights (which probably didn’t exist at that time).

      Closed source software isn’t better. It’s run by people who devalue their workers, other humans, and in fact the entire world except people like them.

      Anti Commercial-AI license

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        Nazi doctors found out a lot about the human body by torturing them and/or treating them inhumanely.

        That is a myth. The documentation left behind by them had little to no scientific rigor, and basically nothing of value was gained from it. The situation was even worse on the Japanese side, where even the visiting nazis thought they were going too far and, again, nothing of value was gained.

      • Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
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        praise revolutionaries

        I think you totally missed the point. I do hope you are joking. Please don’t support mass murder.

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          Traveling across Cuba in 1959, immediately after the overthrow of the U.S.-supported right-wing Batista dictatorship, Mike Faulkner witnessed “a spectacle of almost unrelieved poverty.” The rural pop­ulation lived in makeshift shacks without minimal sanitation. Malnourished children went barefoot in the dirt and suffered “the familiar plague of parasites common to the Third World.” There were almost no doctors or schools. And through much of the year, families that depended solely on the seasonal sugar harvest lived close to starvation (Monthly Review, 3/96). How does that victimization­ in prerevolutionary Cuba measure against the much more widely publicized repression that came after the revolution, when Castro’s communists executed a few hundred of the previous regime’s police assassins and torturers, drove assorted upper-class moneybags into exile, and intimidated various other opponents of radical reforms into silence?

          Today, Cuba is a different place. For all its mistakes and abuses, the Cuban Revolution brought sanitation, schools, health clinics, jobs, housing, and human services to a level not found throughout most of the Third World and in many parts of the First World. Infant mortality in Cuba has dropped from 60 per 1000 in 1960 to 9.7 per 1000 by 1991, while life expectancy rose from 55 to 75 in that same period. Smallpox, malaria, tuberculosis, typhoid, polio, and numer­ous other diseases have been wiped out by improved living standards and public health programs. Cuba has enjoyed a level of literacy higher than in the United States and a life expectancy that compares well with advanced industrial nations (NACLA Report on the Americas, September/October 1995). Other peoples besides the Cubans have benefited. As Fidel Castro tells it:

          The [Cuban] revolution has sent teachers, doctors, and workers to dozens of Third World countries without charging a penny. It shed its own blood fighting colonialism, fighting apartheid, and fascism. . . . At one point we had 25,000 Third World students studying on schol­arships. We still have many scholarship students from Africa and other countries. In addition, our country has treated more children [13,000] who were victims of the Chernobyl tragedy than all other countries put together. They don’t talk about that, and that’s why they blockade us-the country with the most teachers per capita of all countries in the world, including developed countries. The country with the most doctors per capita of all countries [one for every 214 inhabitants]. The country with the most art instructors per capita of all countries in the world. The country with the most sports instructors in the world. That gives you an idea of the effort involved. A country where life expectancy is more than 75 years. Why are they blockading Cuba? Because no other country has done more for its people. It’s the hatred of the ideas that Cuba repre­sents. (Monthly Review, 6/95).

          Cuba’s sin in the eyes of global capitalists is not its “lack of democ­racy.” Most Third World capitalist regimes are far more repressive. Cuba’s real sin is that it has tried to develop an alternative to the global capitalist system, an egalitarian socio-economic order that placed corporate property under public ownership, abolished capi­talist investors as a class entity, and put people before profits and national independence before IMF servitude.

          Excerpt from Blackshirts and Reds, since Parenti and Castro himself put it better than I could.

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        If you aren’t far left then you are far right!

        Also, these leaders have little in common and I don’t know where you got the idea Mussolini is a western hero

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          Lenin and Castro are actual heroes, though. Your propagandistic take is just NATO support. For West, Hitler, Netanyahu, Biden, Stepan Bandera are heroes today.

          Also, since you insist…

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            How is Hitler a hero? Or Biden anyone else on there don’t know do won’t comment.

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              Idk, ask west, Biden pumped billions into Israel last week and even threatened ICC openly. All of west is bouncing on Netanyahu’s wiener and cheering Israel. Hitler’s collaborators have monuments in Ukraine and Eastern Europe, and Canada even paid tribute to Nazis in their parliament.