I’m not from the US, so I’m curious why Americans still wants him back. I always see him as a bad mouthed guy and was worse when he lost in 2020. But feel free to change my mind. This question is also for non-trump supporters who can think of one thing (if you can) on why he’s good for the top position.

  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world
    2·
    2 months ago

    If Trump actually COULD end that war, you can enjoy living in Newkraine, the redeveloped luxury resort of the Sovi- I mean, Russian Union.

    • Bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org
      24·
      2 months ago

      Here we go again, I always hear the same arguments and they don’t make sense…

      Nobody talks about Ukraine being turned into Russia. After peace talks start, new borders will be drawn (give or take) at the current frontlines (which could be way closer to Russia if peace talks started sooner btw).

      And btw, even apart from that - do you know how to identify someone who never visited Ukraine and Russia? They are scaring you of living in Russia. Ukraine and Russia is the same shithole, give or take. Seriously, take whatever metric you want - HDI, GDP, corruption index, journalist freedom index, amount of wooden toilets on the outside, what-fucking-ever, what you will see? Both countries being close together, sometimes Ukraine is a bigger shithole, sometimes Russia is.

      • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world
        4·
        2 months ago

        I’m sure that’s all true, but you’re not looking at it like Trump.

        Your mistake is thinking like someone who gives a shit about ANYTHING that happens outside of the US. Trump is not one of those people.

        Trump has a tiny boner for the power Putin has, and many people are convinced Putin has dirt on Trump. He would send US planes to drop bombs on Ukraine if his buddy Putin asked him to.

        • Bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org
          14·
          2 months ago

          Well, maybe you’re right, I don’t know.

          Like sure, maybe all that you’ve said is true!

          But Dems will 100% continue the war just like Biden was doing this whole time. Trump at least says that he will end it.
          So as I see: chance of peace with a Dem is 0%, chance of peace with Trump is >0%.
          Do you think I am wrong here ^ ?
          And if no, then how am I supposed to support anyone but Trump?

          • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world
            4·
            2 months ago

            I think it’s strange that you say you live there, but don’t seem to have a preference on HOW the war ends. There’s a big difference between a Ukraine victory, a Russian victory, and anywhere in the middle.

            I’m not going to tell you how it is, if you’re there, you know better than I, but I do know that Trump is not someone you want to put your trust in.

            He’s essentially Putin in training, and if you’re still ok with that, you can fuck right off, because fascism isn’t good for anybody.

            • Bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org
              24·
              2 months ago

              I think it’s strange that you say you live there, but don’t seem to have a preference on HOW the war ends. There’s a big difference between a Ukraine victory, a Russian victory, and anywhere in the middle.

              What difference is there for an average Joe?

              I’m not going to tell you how it is, if you’re there, you know better than I, but I do know that Trump is not someone you want to put your trust in.

              But I did not say anywhere that I trust Trump, in fact I said otherwise that I fully agree with you that politicians (including Trump) cannot be trusted!..
              As I said - he at least says that he will end the war, and the Dems say they will continue it.

              He’s essentially Putin in training, and if you’re still ok with that, you can fuck right off, because fascism isn’t good for anybody.

              And again - if there would be other (viable) candidates, sure I’d support them. Is there any other candidate who promises that Ukrainians will stop dying?