I’m not from the US, so I’m curious why Americans still wants him back. I always see him as a bad mouthed guy and was worse when he lost in 2020. But feel free to change my mind. This question is also for non-trump supporters who can think of one thing (if you can) on why he’s good for the top position.

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    It is not possible for a conservative to enter a discussion in good faith. Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Every word.

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      It is not possible for a liberal to enter a discussion in good faith. Every word uttered by a liberal is deception or manipulation. Every word.

      See? I can do it as well :)
      Now, do you have an actual point/argument that makes sense?

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        Your post history is consistent evidence of my claim. Every comment you’ve made on Lemmy has been deceptive and manipulative on its face or in its substance.

        The time for negotiating with conservatives ended over a decade ago. The time for curing the social cancer of conservatism is at hand. There is no such thing as a “good conservative” alive today.

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          Your post history is consistent evidence of my claim. Every comment you’ve made on Lemmy has been deceptive and manipulative on its face or in its substance.

          Here we go again…
          Every time somebody says this, I ask for just one example. And never receive it (because I neither manipulate nor deceive anyone :).
          So, any examples? :)

          There is no such thing as a “good conservative” alive today.

          Well yeah, you definitely seem like a good guy

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            What part of “every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation” are you having difficulty deciphering? Every comment you’ve made here is an example.

            Let’s use your above comment as an example.

            Every time somebody says this, I ask for just one example.

            This is not a true statement on its face.

            And never receive it

            Most replies to your “innocent inquiries” provide evidence of your deception as you reply with moved goal-posts.

            because I neither manipulate not deceive anyone (sic)

            This claim is an absurd falsehood that is evident to every rational human who reads your comment history.

            As you can see, “debating” with a conservative is a waste of time as the conservative is not able to enter any discussion with honesty or in good faith.

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              Holy shit, you wrote such long comment, and it still doesn’t prove a single manipulation/deceptio n/lie from me XD

              This is not a true statement on its face.

              Let me give you a tip, since you seem to struggle argumenting: if you want to prove it - the easiest way is to provide a counter-example ;)

              Most replies to your “innocent inquiries” provide evidence of your deception as you reply with moved goal-posts.

              Well, again - provide a single example of that :)

              This claim is an absurd falsehood that is evident to every rational human who reads your comment history.

              And again, a fallacy without an actual argument.

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                It is a common conservative tactic of deception to claim evidence is not evidence. This has been a standard go-to tactic for conservatives throughout history.

                That approach does not work on Lemmy the way it works on other platforms you may be more familiar with (e.g. Truth Social, Stormfront, Rumble). Not acknowledging evidence as its presented to you is not going to result in a normal person being fooled here. Using a condescending tone is also not going to work.

                The more you writhe, slither and whine, the more I enjoy playing with my food. Ok, your turn.

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                  Well, considering you cannot provide any evidence/proofs to anything you’re saying, I guess there is nothing more to talk with you about :(

                  That’s a shame

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                    Well, considering you cannot provide any evidence/proofs to anything you’re saying

                    Disregarding examples is not an effective way to counter them.

                    I guess there is nothing more to talk with you about

                    There never was. Every word you’ve uttered has been deception or manipulation, making our exchange an illustration of the very point you originally tried to debate against.

                    That’s a shame

                    Another untrue statement.