I’m not from the US, so I’m curious why Americans still wants him back. I always see him as a bad mouthed guy and was worse when he lost in 2020. But feel free to change my mind. This question is also for non-trump supporters who can think of one thing (if you can) on why he’s good for the top position.

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    The consistent behavior of conservatives world-wide is evidence that conservatives are incapable of experiencing empathy for those outside of their in-group.

    Your suggestion that your capacity for empathy is somehow different than all other conservatives is bizarre and itself requires evidence to be taken at face value.

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      The consistent behavior of conservatives world-wide is evidence that conservatives are incapable of experiencing empathy for those outside of their in-group.

      You didn’t provide any proof for that :)

      And actually, why do you even consider me a conservative? Is it only conservatives who have a compassion for human life? :/

      Your suggestion that your capacity for empathy is somehow different than all other conservatives is bizarre and itself requires evidence to be taken at face value.

      You are the one suggesting that somehow I lack empathy, so burden of proof is on you ;)

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        You didn’t provide any proof for that

        The statement immediately above was evidence. In classic conservative fashion, you now demand evidence of that evidence. This goal-post movement will continue ad nauseum, illustrating the futility of debating conservatives.

        Is it only conservatives who have a compassion for human life?

        No. The opposite is true, obviously.

        You are the one suggesting that somehow I lack empathy, so burden of proof is on you

        You are requesting evidence of a negative, knowing full-well that it is not possible to prove a lack of existence of evidence. You have now provided yet another example of a conservative engaging in debate in bad faith.

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          The statement immediately above was evidence.

          You’re confusing your opinion with evidence. Sorry to tell you, but it doesn’t work that way.

          No. The opposite is true, obviously.

          Oh really? So you have empathy towards hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians that died in the war, and also wish for war to end as soon as possible, and therefore support Trump who is the only politician who promised to end the war? Well, in that case what are we even arguing about :)

          You are requesting evidence of a negative

          I am requesting evidence of your arguments. If you argue something that you can’t prove, then your argument is by definition invalid.

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            You’re confusing your opinion with evidence.

            This statement is deception. I used your words as evidence. Your words are clearly not my opinion.

            I am requesting evidence of your arguments.

            This statement is manipulation based on deception. You asked me to prove that you do not have empathy for those not in your in-group. It is foundational to the basic human understanding of reality to know that it is impossible to provide evidence of the absence of something beyond the absence of the evidence of its existence. This is an informal logical fallacy called “Argument from Ignorance”. I provided a statement based on the Absence of Evidence and you replied by demanding the Evidence of Absence. This is a bad faith argument on your part.

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              Omg, it’s really impossible to argue with you :/

              In a dozen messages we’ve exchanged, you provided exactly 0 evidence of what you’re trying to prove, exactly 0 quotes of me that prove any of your points and exactly 0 valid arguments.
              It’s impossible to continue this discussion :(

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                you provided exactly 0 evidence of what you’re trying to prove

                Your dissenting opinion does not disprove my evidence.

                exactly 0 quotes of me that prove any of your points

                This is manipulation based on deception. I used multiple quotes of your comments as evidence against you. You have just decided that they do not “prove any of (my) points”. Your opinion is irrelevant.

                and exactly 0 valid arguments.

                Another manipulation based on your personal opinion that the evidencr I provided was not sufficient to change your mind. My goal, however, has never been to change your mind. My goal has been to allow you to illustrate the deception, manipulation and bad faith discussion one should always expect from a conservative.

                It is not possible for a conservative to enter a debate in good faith, as every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation.