My analogy isn’t terrible, it’s spot fucking on. You just use the ice maker & wouldn’t want to lose it so you’ve attached more value to it than the Anova App.

Does the refrigerator not refrigerate without the ice maker? You didn’t buy an ice maker, you bought a refrigerator.

No one is pissed about the device not working. People are pissed that Anova is taking away a FEATURE.

Anova App = Feature included in original purchase price

Ice Maker = Feature included in original purchase price.

This isn’t about the value of what’s being taken away. It’s about the principle of taking away something that was already paid for.

If Anova wants a subscription based model, they’re welcome to it, but…

Their current customers did not buy into a subscription model & have the absolute right to be pissed off about being forced into one.

Would you buy a refrigerator from a manufacturer that wanted to make the ice maker a subscription service out of nowhere?

I get that the app isn’t a requirement for the device, but neither is an ice maker required for a refrigerator to function as designed.

They’re both features advertised as part of the original purchase price. Why does one get an expiration date out of the blue?

The people who are likely to be losing Bluetooth functionality are also the most likely to be from the original kickstarter batch.

Even if some-many of them have already upgraded to a newer model, that’s still one hell of a statement to make to your original backers.

It’s more about the principle. Why is it ok for a manufacturer to remotely disable a feature that was bought & paid for by a decades worth of customers?

Now that they’ve done it once, what’s stopping future attempts to gin up higher profits using the same tactics?

I don’t think anyone here is angry enough to go all Kid Rock on their Sous Vides, but I do think there are plenty who will look at a different brand when it is time for a replacement.

I have an Inkbird & really like it. Significantly less expensive than Annova, offers all of the same features from what I can tell, & it’s never given me any issues.

The app is of course a bit clunky & ultimately unnecessary, but it does actually function as advertised.

I think the bigger issue is that they’re bricking all support for the oldest models, trying to force customers to abandon a fully functional device just because they want more money.

The app subscription fee is obnoxious as all get out, but punishing your oldest customers for your profit margins is what’s a bit infuriating.

At least, imo.

It use to operate only off of Bluetooth, & then they added single band WiFi. They just added dual band WiFi as a new feature & are now removing Bluetooth functionality completely.

Absolutely a cash grab.

I’m pretty sure Charles Foster Kane was gay, only married beards, & couldn’t come to terms with his attraction to Leland, leading to heart break…

As a fan of happy endings, I suggest:

• Citizen Kane
• The Proposal
• Grumpy Old Men

EVERYTHING is sponsored. If it comes from a candidate, it’s sponsored. If it’s sponsored, it’s PROPAGANDA.

I’m honestly not sure what’s left to debate here. Trumps “ads” are out & out falsehoods, lies, fabrications if you will.

Incorrect information edited into a narrative designed to generate an emotion, typically fear, that calls on you to act by voting for an anthropomorphic circus peanut. You know? Lies.

That picture is a picture. It has no words. It might tell a lie, but it is not a fabrication to generate fear. It’s a bunch of goons trying to look relatable enough to vote for.

Will they lie if elected? Yes. The difference is they aren’t lying to my face directly while trying to pit me against my neighbors in an attempt to drum up hostilities. The other one is doing that.

Everything is propaganda. I’m simply pointing out that some propaganda is more palatable than other types.

I don’t give a squat about some dumpy middle age goon trying to make themselves look relatable and cool for an election.

I do give a squat when a fat liar lies his way to the top of the pile, shits on our country for four years, before starting those lies back up & trying to do it all over again.

Still better than a stank orange Cheeto man lying to my face at every turn.

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Well… Record deals?

It’s the whole standing up thing. It’s a bit messy, even if you were straddling a urinal.

I don’t even pee in the shower cause it just feels kinda gross.

Well that’s handy to know. Going to have to have a talk with our board of education…

The only thing they taught us was that girls don’t fart.

…I’m more curious about what happens when you shine a light through the mouth!

Do you get a Pink Floyd-Esque Dark Side of the Brown Eye prism, or is it more like a hyper focused tac-light that can blind a raccoon?

Phil-Harmonica & his Merry Band of ButtPlug Troubadours

They grab a can of Fix-A-Flat to seal up the hole real good.

The Egyptians were buried with their wealth. Wonder if they’ll think we ate ours & then plugged ourselves up to prevent any from leaking out?

Maybe we should start dumping a bunch of pennies in our coffins to support this hypothesis?

If you angle the head just right, you can shine a flashlight straight through.

PEBKAC is the only universal truth…