How could the Enterprise crew have missed the fact that one of the planets in the system was about to go critical? How could the Reliant crew not have not noticed a missing planet upon their return?
I’m going to be so disappointed if they don’t answer those questions.
I think Discovery is perfectly OK Star Trek. However, because it had a few changes in show runners things progress very strangely.
Season 1 is a 10 hour movie. I liked it for doing something different, and thought the plot twist was interesting.
Season 2 starts off good, but then jumps the (metaphorical) shark at the end.
Season 3 thru 5 starts to feel more like traditional Star Trek, just with wacky doom’s day scenario in the background until it’s resolved at the end of the season. It honestly feels too formulaic, but I thought Season 4’s ending was fantastic, some of the middle stuff was a mixed bag.
Anyway, I still think you should watch it. It’s perfectly adequate. Didn’t make me throw up at all.
So Khan and gang are on Ceti Alpha V. We see foreshadowing that Ceti Alpha VI is going to blow up. And we know it does in Wrath of Khan. What I don’t understand is how Chekov and company mistake Ceti Alpha V for VI. Khan says that the planet’s orbit shifted because of the explosion of VI.
But if VI is the outter most planet, how does it push V out further? Or like, how could they have mistaken V for VI when there is clearly a missing planet in the system. I guess because they were looking for a non-M class planet and didn’t even bother to count the planets in the Ceti Alpha system. I guess that makes sense…
It also doesn’t exactly make sense that a planet would just blow up, but I guess it could happen…
Anyway, I’m really enjoying this audio drama. This is honestly my first audio drama. I hope some animator with too much free time tries to make some cool visuals to go with this.
Yeah, I think this book/podcast is what named them Ceti Eel. I’m pretty sure they’re unnamed in Wrath of Khan.
Yeah, I think hair splinters is plausible. I didn’t even know this was a thing until I started to grow out my beard and tugged on it like a wise old sage but ended up breaking the tip off and getting is stuck in my thumb…a few times…you think I’d learn to stop doing that…
I also really like Season 3, but I do feel it is the weakest of the 3 seasons we got so far.
What are the rifles they’re using? Maybe taken from the 90s Eugenic Wars? I guess Kirk would have left them with it, since they’re basically obsolete and they do need something to help defend themselves.
I don’t like destiny episodes. It makes it feel like nothing matters. Like in ENT’s Shockwave, the crew just follows Daniel’s plan it and it all works out.
I feel this was not a very strong season, but I did enjoy it and that they experimented with the shows formula a bit. But over all, I feel this is the weakest of the 3 seasons we have so far.
Also, what’s up with all the mind melds? I went back and watch Dagger of the Mind, the first time we see an onscreen mind meld, and Spock says that he never mind melded with a human before. I guess he could always be lying, as that is definitely within Spock’s ability, but it seems like a trivial thing to lie about. But I get it, don’t be a slave to canon when we got a story to tell.
But to be realistic, it’d have been easier to make a program that could fire the phasers at the same time rather then a mind meld. And at the same time, there are many times in Star Trek where literally basic cyber security or actual computer programming could have saved the day, and at the end of the day that’s just not good compelling story telling.
I’m also a bit disappointed that they did not find a contrived techno babel solution to save Gamble. But I get it, he’s not bridge crew, so is expendable.
It was nice that Pike and Batel got to experience a happy ending that we know will never come.
I don’t think I much like this episode though.
I’m refreshing myself on Khan story and am watching Space Seed. And I see Lt. McGivers identifies Khan as a Sikh. I knew that Khan and company rules over India during the Eugenics Wars, but for some reason I always thought since the augments were multiracial, I just assumed they got Ricardo Montalban, a Mexican actor, because when they’re combining genes to make the perfect human they just kind of go with whatever’s on hand.
It not makes me think that Andrews is even better casting choice now.
Not to throw shade at Montalban, because I love Ricardo Montalban. He’s got so much charisma. But I do think it makes sense to have a Sikh character played by an Indian actor.
In contrast, Benedict Cumberbatch is another fantastic actor, but literally made no sense why they casted him as Khan.
Gasp! I should have looked up if Earl Boen was still with us.
I’ll add my comment from the other post here too.
Naveen Andrews is doing a great job with Khan sounding very charismatic.
Not to throw shade at Andrews, but I do kind of wish maybe they got Earl Boen who can do a very good sound alike to Ricardo Montalban. Boen filled in for Montalban as Señor Senior Sr. in Kim Possible, and sounded really spot on.
But if we ever see Khan on screen again, I think Andrews would be great casting.
I also did the unthinkable, I’m listening to this podcast at 1x speed. Because I wanted to really be immersed in the story telling. I usually listen to podcasts at 1.5x or 2x, whichever allows me to consume the content quicker while understanding it.
It’ll be intersting to see what hell comes from this that will inform Khan’s revenge for Kirk in Wrath of Khan.
Naveen Andrews is doing a great job with Khan sounding very charismatic.
Not to throw shade at Andrews, but I do kind of wish maybe they got Earl Boen who can do a very good sound alike to Ricardo Montalban. Boen filled in for Montalban as Señor Senior Sr. in Kim Possible, and sounded really spot on.
But if we ever see Khan on screen again, I think Andrews would be great casting.
I think we should. Any reason to talk more about Star Trek lore is great in my book.
I personally am looking forward to the inevitable crossover episode with Strange New Worlds.
That’s going to be so dope. Probably very pricy too, since license Lego products are expensive and the tariffs I’ve heard have even effect Lego prices.
To be fair, if you look at her quarters, she does tinker with things a lot. So it’s not exactly out of left field that she might have the mechanical knowledge to tinker up some jury rigged devices.
A Darmok, The Enemy and Arena episode is not what I was expacting but I was pleasantly surprised.
I don’t mind retreading old stories, after all recycling plots is a Star Trek tradition.
I’d have been happier without the reveal of the Metrons. I get it, as a callout/foreshadowing of Arena, but I kind of feel that is took away from the emotional beat of the Gorn being killed by the security team. Then to also have it handwaved away with a memory wipe, so that it is only meant for us, the viewers. I don’t know man… I kind of like the deepcut, but it’s also distracting.
I guess it was also a bit necessary for us to understand the Gorn a bit more to have the all seeing eye narrate to us that the Gorn pilot was lonely and is the reason Ortega was spared.
Anyway, I loved this episode. We got a whole episode for Ortega. Addressed her PTSD that had been sitting in the backseat for this entire season. And I love these kind of survival episodes. Like I really enjoyed ENT’s Shuttlepod One for the same reason. Just seeing characters fighting for their lives and also accepting their death in a cold and uncaring Universe. It’s good compelling Star Trek.
The only thing I wish is that SNW’s best episodes didn’t feel like the best of TOS.
Interesting factoid is that McGivens knows Zefram Cochrane’s true motivation for building the first warp ship. When we see people talk about Cochrane after the fact, like Archer in ENT or even with Kirk and co met Cochrane or even the TNG crew. They all idolize him. McGiven’s, being a historian, oddly does not. As a historian I think it makes sense that she’d have a much more intimate knowledge of actual historical facts. In retrospective, her characterization in this audio drama is extremely different (and much more interesting) then her depiction in Space Seed.
In Space Seed she seemed to idolize historical figures. But in this drama she seems to almost be more cynical about it. I do think this makes her character a lot more interesting, so I’m not knocking it. The naive book worm having a crush on the genocidal dictator is not exactly compelling Star Trek. Her being the voice of reason, and even trying to offer a modern counterpoint to Khan’s dogmatic caveman (relatively speaking) thinking is good Star Trek. It’s just a shame she doesn’t have much political power to enforce the Federation’s ideals on these warmongering primitives.
I also like that even after Ceti Alpha VI blew up, it will take months before it effects Ceti Alpha V, giving Khan and co time to prepare. Also, nice to know that some of his company is intelligent enough to know they need to start to prepare, while Khan is prioritizing the wrong things and even possibly could have saved his people if he’d listen to Mcgiven’s and stop being so xenophobic.
I wonder if they’ll ever explore his feeling guilty, if he just listened to McGiven, Wrath of Khan would never have happened. But instead he unwittingly doomed them all.
This isn’t exactly the Star Trek I wanted, but I am pretty happy we got something to hold us over until the next series.