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Because nobody wants to sell this?

I know. However I was wondering what proto European was supposed to be.

That’s a really old accusation made since the 60s I think.

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Currently started (at least somewhat) working on a submarine simulation/strategy game. I want it to be as lightweight as possible so it runs on as many systems as possible. Probably a lot of 2D graphics wherever graphics are necessary but a lot of focus will be on sensors and calculations. I want it to be Dieselpunkish with a technology tree between 1910s and 1960s but without featuring real world countries or submarines and no nuclear technology. The simulation of individual ships should be in depth in a dwarf fortress kind of way and I want realistic sound propagation. I’ll try to incorporate submarine design as well.

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There’s a game called Automation that covers some of these aspects.

That makes sense somewhat, although it would be a rather broad category.

But is it a language? I only know of Proto Germanic and Proto Indo-European that would be relevant here but I’m not a linguist.

What’s proto European?

Doesn’t really sound like it wouldn’t draw attention

Guess you’re happy then 👍

1. I didn’t. I meant it, to use another terminology, as ancestral/derived traits. Maybe you get that.

2. I didn’t, also you can’t prove absence of something as you should know.

3. Do you actually believe ants have closely similar cognitive abilities to humans? Where does this idea come from? At the beginning of the century entomology textbooks actually featured flowcharts to predict insect behaviour. We found out that there is more individuality and adaptability but it’s still not comparable to animals with more complex brains.

You have provided effectively 0 evidence to prove anything as wild as ants forming some elaborate society that would be even nearly as complex as that of humans. Show me this research that you speak of or maybe try to lay off the pop-sci a little.

1. I used primitive and modern as a way to refer to more basal or derived traits in ant colonies that I hoped would be more accessible. This is commonly used in literature although a bit dated.

2. Where did I say ants don’t have cognition? You just assumed this. Also, there are no examples of playing behaviour in ant species so far. Only the bumblebee paper. If you know of any publications on this topic that I don’t know about, please feel free to share. Maybe they do, still doesn’t really change much.

3. Show me an insect manufacturing or using tools. Or one learning new techniques by watching others, or one teaching its offspring. These are some of the complex cognitive traits found in mammals and birds that have not been shown for insects as far as I know.

Believe me when I tell you that I have a profound interest and appreciation for insects, enough to shape career and education choices around them. But claiming that insects are cognitively even remotely on the same level as humans is not supported anywhere and a bit of a silly hill to die on.

Ok, any arguments to back that up?

The only eusocial mammal, what about it?

Maybe he will switch even quicker if you punch him or pull his teeth out.

Insect cognition has been a researched topic for some time. Most people tend to reduce them to some robotic form of being, I think that’s not the case as does more modern research. They are capable of learning, bumblebees have been observed displaying playful behaviour (or at least something that resembles it). However all evidence still suggests that their behaviour is very much governed by instincts and can be predicted quite well. There are no known intellectual abilities of insects that come close to those of somewhat intelligent vertebrates. Humans and primates are in another category altogether.

The percentage of workers that actually work is in fact low. This doesn’t change my assumptions. The resting ants have not been shown to pursue individualistic goals, they most likely are just resting.

I know that they do this. The primitive ant species fight for the queen position all the time. However, in the more modern ant species this behaviour is rare or doesn’t really exist as far as we know. In bees it is also not the norm.

And there still are no cognitive abilities of any insect that have been shown to come close to those of somewhat intelligent vertebrates. I don’t think that insects are robots, however their behavioural repertoire is very limited in comparison to birds for example let alone humans.