This isn’t some game of political points. The world’s preeminent genocide scholars via their international body, the UN independent commission of inquiry, and a whole host of credible human rights organizations are calling it a genocide. Either a politician accepts overwhelming evidence or they live in post-truth lalaland, the same space as antivaxxers and climate deniers.

Here is the report by the way: https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/sessions-regular/session62/a-hrc-62-crp-2.pdf

And here is the UN Human Rights Council press release that links to it: https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2026/06/israel-continues-commit-genocide-and-other-atrocity-crimes-deliberately?sub-site=HRC

Here are the people who make up the Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, and Israel : https://www.ohchr.org/en/hr-bodies/hrc/coiopt-israel/commissioners

Not that you care, seeing your inflammatory trollish behaviour here and the fact that you moderate a community that has as Rule 1 “No Further Gaza/Israel war posts”.

But if anyone stumbles upon this, here are the actual receipts.

We’re talking human economic policy bro. 36 years is an era.

Wtf?

What a ridiculous thing to say, what a bullshit argument.

There has existed a scientific consensus about the dangers of climate change due to CO2 emissions since the late 1980s. The first IPCC report came out in 1990. That’s 36 years ago. MORE THAN THREE FUCKING DECADES that our leaders have had the knowledge that humanity needs to change course. MORE THAN THREE DECADES of lost opportunity to actually change the structure of our economies and the inputs/outputs of industrial base.

So give me a fucking break from the bullshit.

In the US context specifically, I blame the ridiculous sacralisation of the US Constitution as some perfect document that you need to interpret under the original intent of the semi divine founding daddies. France is in its fifth Republic and there are people actually talking about the need for a Sixth.

Lol no. The SC is not the forum for this. The ICJ in the trial for South Africa’s genocide accusation on the other hand might want to hear how its provisional measures order has been respected by the Israeli apartheid regime.

The cost to the global economy of dealing with fossil fuel dependency is going to be huge. So instead we are going to faaaaaall down and worship at the Moloch of the Capitalism with annual human sacrifices. India is ahead of the game with 40k levels of human sacrifice (about 3500 per day!), so the other countries need to step up their game, because only 18 people in France, those are rookie numbers.

In the 21st century, Presidential systems seem to be uniquely vulnerable to fascist politics. Not just Trump, but also Bolsonaro, Bukele, and the Chilean and now the Colombian examples as well. Parliamentary systems are of course not immune (cf Meloni and Orban) but they seem to be more resilient. At the same time, eg. in Turkey, the move towards authoritarianism seems to also be coupled with a move towards more and more presidential models. It seems fascists love the kinds of institutional shortcuts that strong executives can take.

For Zionism being all about the “land of Israel”, and wanting to build “greater Israel”, why do they hate and abuse the land so much? I mean ok, they hate the people, I get that, they are fascist colonizers. But why the land? They do the same to the West Bank when they destroy centuries old olive groves, and that’s in their supposed “Judaea and Samaria” that they are supposed to love so much that they want to ethnically cleanse.

How the fuck do far right simps for the oligarchy keep being able to position themselves as “outsiders” and “fresh”?

Oh yes, I agree. It would be a major major shift.

I think you’re underestimating the extent to which if the US establishment decides AIPAC is a problem for its own interests they can destroy its influence overnight. Especially with weakened democratic norms and checks and balances, no group, no matter how well connected can be safe from an unhinged executive acting in the name of “saving the country”. If AIPAC becomes a problem to them, if it no longer serves them, they will deal with it. Similar to how whoever doesn’t play nice with Putin meets various kinds of windows.

It is not an accident that a part of the MAGAsphere has already pivoted against Israel. And remember that the fascists have no actual solutions to anything, just an infinite progression of “purification”. They would have zero qualms about going full antisemite within the US if it suited them. And when that time comes, the Zionists will experience the actual difference between antisemitism and antizionism in practice.

The arms industry is far from black and white. It’s a spectrum of shitty grey. Some part of that spectrum is made up of actual Israeli companies like Elbit. That’s not some neutral “IKEA” that “happens” to sell something that someone “happens” to use to do something bad. It’s a company that’s literally part of the military-industrial complex of a genocidal apartheid state. That’s a part of the shitty spectrum of the arms industry that Ukraine should not be put in a position to depend on.

Or to put it differently: if Ukraine is made to depend on those motherfuckers, don’t clutch your pearls if the consequences (political blowback and uncertainty due to direct action from pro-palestinian activism and movements in the west) of that really bad decision end up affecting Ukrainian capacity. Don’t blame the activists trying to grind the gears of Israel’s genocide to a halt. They were going to do that anyway AND THEY ARE MORALLY CORRECT TO TRY TO DO THAT. If that inadvertently ends up hurting the Ukrainian war effort, blame Ukraine’s allies for exposing Ukraine to that strategic liability. Do you understand what I’m saying?

Or if you want it all the way down to brass tacks: Palestinians don’t have an obligation to die for Ukrainans. Palestine solidarity actions in the West don’t have an obligation to Ukraine to facilitate the industry that actively participates in Palestinian genocide. If the West’s Ukraine armament strategy depends on such a fucked up moral catastrophe and also depends on their citizens going along with that moral catastrophe, the West’s armaments strategy is just plain fucking stupid because it will keep producing friction and uncertainty and they should fucking do better.

Iran should have the exact same nuclear capacity as Israel. Preferrably zero for both, but if that’s off the table then non-zero. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

And somehow it’s Piker and Uygur that get banned from the UK.

Lol no, I’m not following you up Stupid Mountain.

You make an argument that chooses a priority: “regardless of the fact that”. Guess what, other people make their own priority arguments where they make their own “regardless of the fact that” calculations. If you get to call other people “morally dubious” for not following your absolute priority, so do they get to call you “morally dubious” for not following theirs. Then the conversation becomes “which genocide matters more, Putin’s or Netanyahu’s”. Is that the conversation you really want to be having though?

Here’s what I say instead and you should be able to see the pragmatism in this point of view:

Ukraine should have the tools to fight for its freedom which is why it should not be put by its allies in the position to have to navigate suppliers that are politically toxic and a source of uncertainty and division in its support base (the conflicting moral priority arguments in my first paragraph).

The cold hard logic is that Elbit is a politically toxic, politically compromised supplier that comes with unnecessary uncertainty and risk. The fact that there are large sections of western populations that hold very legitimate grievances against them is very much an opening for Russian propaganda and manipulation. The UK should not expose Ukraine to any of that.

So if you really care about Ukraine having a shot, you should simply demand the exclusion of Israeli linked suppliers. They are a strategic liability for Ukraine. It’s just not worth the drama and uncertainty from the point of view of Ukraine focusing on what matters to them and for sure nobody needs to be giving Putin any more talking points about western hypocrisy.

What I find morally dubious is why Ukrainians are put in the position to collaborate with industries complicit in genocide.

Russia is not the only barbarian in town.