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Very accurate description
Peace was never an option
The Linux community is united! (Unless you mention Rust, or Wayland, or systemd, or Snap, or GNOME, or…)
You’ve made an enemy for life!
Rust as well? In what way? (Genuinely interested, just don’t know much about that community)
There’s an ongoing
debatetantrum about introducing Rust code to the kernel. Some people are pushing for it, some people have made it their life’s purpose to make sure that doesn’t happen, it has led to a wave of maintainers resigning, and Linus is sitting with his thumb up his arse when his leadership is needed.Interesting, thank you for explaining!
GNOME>KDE
I used to prefer Gnome for the longest time. It seemed to be lighter on resources and cleaner. I tried KDE again a few years ago and was blown away at how much better it has gotten. KDE has quickly become my go to. The ease of customization, theming, and the wealth of settings sold me on it.
I ought to go back and try Gnome again since it’s been a few years. I’m sure they’ve gotten better too since I last used them.
Windows is only better for you if you have a high-end Nvidia GPU and/or like having a good HDR implementation (KDE’s HDR support is a joke by comparison). If neither apply to you, then there’s no reason to ever use Windows.
That said, from what I’ve seen since I joined Lemmy, most people here couldn’t give a single fuck about HDR. In fact, every time I even bring it up, I get nothing but hostility from the community (cause how dare I dual boot instead of using Arch fulltime? *sigh*).
You’re missing out on a colorful image that more closely resembles real-life (clouds and sunsets look especially beautiful in HDR), but if you’ve never experienced it before then I can understand why the general opinion around here is that HDR is useless. I mean, I used to think that VA panels had good contrast and that IPS had superior colors, until I got a 4K144Hz HDR OLED… Hell, at one point I used to think that 60 FPS looked smooth too…
Anyway, that’s the end of my little rant. You can go ahead and downvote me now.
The only thing Windows has ever done with my HDR is decide for no reason to put insane contrast and color temps on my displays. Then I have to flick it on and off repeatedly until it looks a bit less terrible
I don’t know how to feel about it tbh. My steam deck and vita have oled displays, the tv downstairs has hdr, but it never made as much of a difference imo. Like when i’m sitting at my va monitor i don’t feel like i’m missing anything. Maybe it’s just a personal thing in terms of what you’re most sensitive to. I feel like i’m most sensitive towards refreshrate. I also don’t bother with ray tracing cause even in the best examples like cyberpunk, people usually have to point out the difference to me because i barely notice it.
If neither apply to you, then there’s no reason to ever use Windows.
I’m sure someone somewhere has found software they need that doesn’t work with Wine. Solidworks, a bunch of Adobe shit, etc. Oftentimes the free alternatives just aren’t quite there yet, even though they exist.
Wet Ass Penguins?
Now we need Cardi B Linux alongside Hannah Montana Linux.
Bring a bucket and a mop.
For this wet-ass penguin
Wireless Ass-Penguins
Windows is unfortunately still better for gaming. Full stop. I still use both in different settings. Fuck Apple though.
I honestly hated idea of linux for soooo long. Ew. Like ew. Doesn’t work, borks, needs command line, wtf is that steaming pile of…yeah. Ew.
But insert the goddamn bird with cracker meme after I tried Nobara last year (tried some other distros too). When Windows 10 loses support, I am pretty confident that Nobara will fill most of my needs.
And, well, have some IT experience, with linux too, so occasional terminal isn’t that bad. I was simply afraid of constantly having to work in terminal.
I use CLI a lot because I find it much more convenient, so I’m genuinely curious where do you actually still need it in a modern distro as a standard user?
It’s not that you neeeed it for most basic stuff, but if you search how to do something the results are more commonly terminal commands.
Yep, when posting how to do something, between ‘select an example and paste to answer’ or ‘series of screenshots to illustrate a gui way’, the text copy/paste wins on laziness of answer.
Besides, there’s a decent chance that a person has to solve it for some arbitrarily large number of systems, and speaking in CLI is a vocabulary that can more trivially be made headless across a bunch of systems.
In my experience learning Windows 10 for my job, the results of searching for how to do something are: ‘click-this’ tutorials that don’t work because Microsoft changed something in the next edition, editing the registry, or PowerShell commands. The registry editing sometimes doesn’t work because Microsoft changed something. The PowerShell method is the way to go, because Microsoft has embraced the command line.
Which is honestly a good thing, it’s so much better than instructions that are like click here -> drag to the left -> open a three level deep menu -> check the box -> reopen that menu -> click go. Or even worse, instructions that are a video
I just use it to get updates with apt-get or Pacman or yay. I haven’t seen any other way to update non flatpack programs on the distros I use
I actually use KDE’s discover to apply all the updates (flathub and yum). Mainly because I’m lazy and the update icon appears and it’s quick to just click through.
I just checked and it doesn’t seem to pick up all the updates that pacman or yay does. Looks like, among other things it’s missing updates for samba, konsole, and plasma-addons
My kids’ PCs have a gnome extension that says how many updates there are and you can install them by clicking on the icon. Could be handy if you use gnome too.
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1010/archlinux-updates-indicator/
I’m a recent convert, so I picked KDE since it looked familiar. Might try gnome in the future tho, since I hear a lot of good things about it.
For arch at least there’s a widget you can add that does the same thing, it can show the number of available updates and works with pacman, yay, and a few other AUR package managers too.
What’s the name of the widget?
I think just Arch Update Checker iirc
KDE has a GUI app called Discover that will do Flatpaks as well as other package management systems. It shows me RPM packages that I normally update with
zypperThat’s interesting, normally I’d use Pacman then update flatpacks, but I’ll have to check discover tomorrow before I run Pacman to see if it will do all my updates.
Hmm, mount a network drive, or any drive? On Windows it’s a few clicks in Explorer, but I’m not aware of it being that easy on any distro I used. Always had to go into /etc/fstab manually
I think the file managers do this for you nowadays, though I generally use ‘cloud’ style file syncing nowadays and so I’ll confess to not having done it lately.
Well, the thing is, you almost don’t. But like the other commenter said, most instructions are for terminal when something happens and from my - fairly limited as of now - experience, terminal is still key to linux configuration.
What was mostly generating the Ew response was the fact that linux isn’t really known for being newbie friendly. Then getting hit with headless debian during studies also didn’t exactly change what I thought.
Wait until someone starts complaining about bad GUI…
Which one? 😁
Meanwhile, countries that surrender to the microsoft side of the force just bend over again and again and again…https://ioplus.nl/en/posts/trump-has-free-rein-over-dutch-government-data
My dad always used to tell me how the dutch government was jokingly bad at IT & other stuff. But booooooooooooy did i not expect it to be this bad
As a relatively recent Windows refugee, I want to share a recent success that has made me feel fully confident in never needing Windows again and fully feeling the Linux superiority.
I got Cyberpunk with all my previous mods running.
Maybe not a big deal for most people, but this was one thing that had kept me holding onto dual boot on my main device. Conversations online also kept making modding on Linux seem so impenetrable.
Then I decided to spend an afternoon figuring out modding games in general on Linux, and yeah parts of it was tough for me to figure out, but now I’m confident that anything I used to do on PC, I can probably do better on Linux.
I am ready to take up arms alongside the Weaponized Assault Penguin squad.
I’d trust you on my 6.
I’m going to be playing through cyberpunk again after not touching it since the launch fiasco and recommendations?
For mods? Personally I just browser Nexus mods for what looks fun or interesting. Just getting command lines going is fun enough for a start. I always at least start a run giving myself a bunch of cash. But honestly, the vanilla game is plenty fun now and pretty well balanced compared to when it started. Still finding side content and weird stuff
For general modding I started with the Redmodding Wiki and then I got over complicated trying to use a mod manager, messing with Steam Tinker Launcher and Mod Organizer 2. In the end just did things manually following the redmodding wiki.
Temple OS the best! PLUTO IS A PLANET
Both were created by the same person
One of your statement is wrong and its not the latter.
BOTH ARE RIGHT!
You heard about Pluto? That’s messed up
When did temple start getting lumped in with linux anyway
Aww man the less awesome WAP
Windows is better… if you need game compatibility, slave in Office or Adobe, have a Nvidia card, wants HDR and or fractional scaling…
Everything else, it’s pure unadulterated garbage…
Game compatibility isn’t really an issue on Linux anymore thanks to Proton.
Depending on how old and what graphics card you have.
Games: nope. Same as someone above, I’ve got Cyberpunk on Linux
Office/Adobe… may be a fair point for some Nvidia card: nope, works fine
HDR: did not even bother to learn what is. Can be a fair point
Fractional scaling - genuine question: who the hell ever needs this? I have gone from 1K resolution (standard laptop) to 2K to 2.5K to
34K with curved monitor and never ever ever did I think “hey, this big screen? I want everything bigger/smaller on it”. What do people use fractional scaling for?Fractional scaling is awesome, I could never use my monitor without it, things just are too small.
But it perfectly works on Linux for me (OpenSUSE).
But how big is it (resolution/physical size) ?
I feel like I will never go for more than present 4k with around 80cm width (but it is curved, so screen surface is enough), because if I try to stuff more windows visible at the same time, it becomes more info than I can process. So, unless I start building something like personal dashboard, this is my limit: finally see enough, do not get overwhelmed
Your post smells of someone, who only uses their computer for fairly limited tasks.
Office/Adobe
There’s so much software around serious work, creativity, and productivity, that doesn’t exist for linux or is meh. CAD, audio, video, music production.
The main reasons I use macOS are GarageBand and apps for DJing. Anything audio still breaks far too often on linux or is otherwise a pain.
OmniGraffle is so fantastically great, there’s no linux equivalent. The Affinity suite of alternative applications to Adobe is fantastic and far above any linux alternative.
The nicest GUI application for git, nor the best diff and merge tool aren’t available for Linux.
Besides that getting support for commercial software is usually much better than for FOSS.
who the hell ever needs this?
People who love details and crisp fonts and thus own high density resolution screens.
HDR: did not even bother to learn what is
You seem to have moderate expectations towards visual computing.
Fairly limited tasks like backend development, yeah.
But true I had no idea what people really use for graphics and sound, thank you for pointing thouse out.
GUI for git, merge and diff does not bother me either, but that is a personal quirk. Thank you for those too, I will at least take a look
You seem to have moderate expectations towards visual computing.
Got me a hundred percent 🙂. Maybe when I have more money I will dive into the beautiful world of high-quality graphics
I use scaling for stuff on a TV.
Same as I.
Ah. Yeah, TVs can be really large. Thank you for taking the time to explain
