Details are murky and no final agreement has been reached, but the plan is under serious enough consideration that the administration has discussed it with Libyan leadership.

In exchange for the resettling of Palestinians, the administration would potentially release to Libya billions of dollars of funds that the U.S. froze more than a decade ago, those three people said.

  • REDACTED@infosec.pubEnglish
    26·
    20 hours ago

    Nazis wanted to kill them all, not move them further away. It’s of course a shitty thing to do, but I’m getting kinda annoyed by how often people use nazis as an example for something when they were far more evil than anything that exists today, essentially downplaying or borderline normalizing nazis because of how commonly it’s now used for real life examples.

    • acargitz@lemmy.caEnglish
      111·
      20 hours ago

      This is false. The Nazis originally planned to deport the Jews. They changed to extermination once their deportation plans stopped being practical. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan#Plan_abandoned

      Quote:

      Once planning for Operation Barbarossa commenced, Hitler asked Himmler to draft a new plan for the elimination of the Jews of Europe, and Himmler passed along the task to Heydrich. His draft proposed the deportation of the Jews to the Soviet Union via Poland.[36] The later Generalplan Ost (General Plan for the East), prepared by Professor Konrad Meyer and others, called for deporting the entire population of occupied Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union to Siberia, either for use as slave labour or to be murdered after the Soviet defeat. The plan hinged on the rapid defeat of the Soviet forces.[37] Once it became apparent that the war against the Soviet Union would drag on much longer than expected, Heydrich revised his plans to concentrate on the Jewish population then under Nazi control. Since transporting masses of people into a combat zone would be impossible, Heydrich decided that the Jews would be killed in extermination camps set up in occupied areas of Poland.[38] The total number of Jews murdered during the resulting Holocaust is estimated at 5.5 to 6 million people.[39]

      In other words, by focusing on the end point of the Holocaust and ignoring its starting point YOU are normalizing nazi-like plans that have every potential to escalate.

      • REDACTED@infosec.pubEnglish
        1·
        12 hours ago

        …dude, I literally talked about what happened, not what was theoretized. Do you have any idea how brutally evil things have US or other countries theoretized? Thinking and doing are two very, VERY different things. Didn’t know this needs explaining.

        • acargitz@lemmy.caEnglish
          1·
          12 hours ago

          I responded to what you actually wrote:

          Nazis wanted to kill them all, not move them further away. […]

          You described intent, i.e., “thinking”.

          🙄

          PS. Genocide is not a single event in time, it’s a process. An easy way to educate yourself on the matter is by searching YouTube for interviews of Omer Bartov, world renowned Israeli scholar on Genocide and the Holocaust, prof at Brown.

          • REDACTED@infosec.pubEnglish
            1·
            11 hours ago

            I mean, they were doing it and would have finished doing it if it wasn’t for a world war, so definitely not just thinking

            • acargitz@lemmy.caEnglish
              1·
              11 hours ago

              This is also false. The mass killings started in the middle of 1941 after the invasion of the Soviet Union. The systematic policy of extermination was decided in January 1942 in the Wannsee Conference.

              There was quite a lot of thinking before doing. And there was quite a lot of doing smaller steps before doing bigger steps. Just like there was quite a lot of thinking smaller steps before thinking bigger steps.

              Give it a rest buddy, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

              • REDACTED@infosec.pubEnglish
                1·
                10 hours ago

                Says I’m false

                Proceeds to tell me I’m true.

                Look buddy who knows it all, when Israel actually decides to kill those million Palestinians instead of moving them, get back to me abd I’ll apologize for my ignorant statements, but as of things stand now, I cannot take you seriously when you push for extreme comparisons while nit-picking how it all started.

                Your argument somewhat reminded me of the “weed is a getaway drug to stronger drugs” argument. No, that’s not always the case.

    • Longpork3@lemmy.nzEnglish
      1·
      16 hours ago

      No, the orginal plan was to ship them all to Madagascar. It is well documented

      • REDACTED@infosec.pubEnglish
        11·
        12 hours ago

        And the original plan for country X was to do Y but since it never happened, it’s irrelevant and people almost never speak of it, except when it suddenly fits their narrative, no matter how stupid/disconnected it is

        In other news, USSR and Gulag is exactly the comparison you were actually looking for, but no, gotta always use “nazis” because of how catchy it is to you guys