• echo64@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    I don’t know how it will eventually happen, but Microsoft is going to own everything open ai someday. They are playing the long game

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          11 months ago

          Lol no.

          They aren’t going to extinguish OpenAI, they are going to use their tech for everything

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              11 months ago

              That’d only work with proprietary tech.

              AI is pure math and that math is freely available. There are already many competitors with similar functionality and there isn’t much Microsoft can do to change that.

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                EEE has been used against open source tools in the past (it’s where the extend part comes in), and crushing competition with the full weight of the MS machine is kinda the point. I think you’re being too quick to handwave it away, but I’d love to be wrong. In any case, not interested in changing your mind enough to argue with you about it. Have a nice day!

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            11 months ago

            No, they are going to sell the tech to others, microsoft doesnt know what to do with it. Extinguish doesn’t mean the thing no longer exists, it means that the entity openai, and it’s mission and what it was created for gets extinguished. And microsofts version of that geared towards shareholder value

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              11 months ago

              That would mean having a monopoly on computation, which is never gonna happen.

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        11 months ago

        My speculation is that they paid Sutskever a lot of money to go away and keep his mouth shut

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      11 months ago

      They already do. Their licensing agreement with OpenAI is crazily favourable to them. They have basically unlimited rights to use OpenAI’s tech forever, and have a claim on most of OpenAI’s future profits.

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        11 months ago

        right now they have a very favourable deal, but don’t control the for-profit entity or the non-profit entity (officially) - which means all they can actually leverage is the tech that openai makes for their own uses.

        and microsoft making things often just flops hard, look at what they are doing with it, your start menu talks to you now.

        the goal is not to have a favourable deal, it’s to grow shareholder value by owning openai in 6-7 years

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        11 months ago

        That’s a hell of a “non-profit” to “mother of for-profit monopolists” transition. Obviously it had started years ago and this past few weeks was just the calamitous release of pent-up tension. But still, Microsoft of all companies.

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          11 months ago

          The firing and subsequent rehire/board change was clearly orchestrated in a way to benefit Altman and Microsoft. I don’t have the hate boner for Microsoft that most Lemmy users have, but it’s not a particularly great sign of a healthy tech company your “owner” feels the need to pull a stunt like this.

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            11 months ago

            Yea I wasn’t trying to channel any particular Microsoft hate. You could probably sub any of the big tech companies in. Either way it’s a massive for-profit to the point of pushing the lines of monopolism.

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      11 months ago

      Yeah, at this point, it feels like beating a dead horse, but somehow they’re still doing Embrace-Extend-Extinguish…