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    I know this isn’t the most popular opinion, but I love self-checkout systems when they’re available and used correctly. My local supermarket closed 2 10-item-or-less lanes and put 6 self-checkouts in the same space. I probably make 2 trips/week to the store for fewer than 10 items, and being able to check myself out has been a huge time saver. There are still another 8 lanes with cashiers for larger shopping trips. If the supermarket can avoid the race to the bottom thinking of "well, we replaced 2 lanes, maybe we can also replace the other 8), it’ll be a nice compromise.

    Now contrast that with my local Home Depot, which typically has 1-2 cashiers MAX at any given time. They have turned the checkout process into a tedious pain in the ass, and I’ve more or less stopped shopping there as a result.

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      When self-checkouts were first rolled out, my friends and I loved them.

      As twenty-something introverted nerds, it helped a lot when buying “embarrassing” things like condoms.

      You didn’t have to have the checkout person giving you the stink-eye because they’re ultra religious or something.

      Now, twenty-some years on, they’ve been abused to the point that some places they’re all that’s ever open, Target and Walmart seem to be the biggest offenders there. When there’s a line down three different aisles because the self-checked is so backed up, it’s defeated the purpose of creating “efficiency.”

      However, I’ve noticed that about a lot of business practices lately. We’ve rounded the bend and they’re still doing things that aren’t actually producing efficiency anymore. Like staffing with nothing but a skeleton crew, so anytime someone calls out sick, everything falls apart because you’re short a person. Personal opinion, but if one person missing work wrecks everything, that’s not an efficient way to schedule people.

      It’s proof that these MBA business school chucklefucks are just repeating the shit they tell each other ad nauseum, because when it comes to real-world results the results are abysmal and inefficient.

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        That’s just lean. If one employee is sick, everything falls apart. If the delivery of a specific part the production line is delayed, everything stops.

        It’s all very intentional, because it’s lean. Having buffers of any kind costs money, while making everything lean makes it cheaper to run your company. As usual, all of this is also reflected on profits and dividend income.

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      My supermarket implemented these barcode scanner you can carry in the store so that you can scan and put your stuff in your grocery bags in your cart as you go, as well as some scales so that you can also scan those items paid by weight, which you can then scan at the self-checkout terminal. They also spot-check every 4th scanners and scan for random items in the cart to make sure you actually added them to your list as a theft-deterrent.

      It’s way faster and less finicky than dealing with the scale that checks if you added the item you just scanned (and complains often that something’s wrong).

      I hope this kind of system will stay, it’s really nice going to a self-checkout terminal and pay with your bags already filled.

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        when I worked at a grocery store for a bit (until a year go), we had that kind of system alongside the regular and self checkouts. It was interesting to see as I had never heard of it before, but it was very fast when it worked. That being said, almost nobody actually used it, and whenever the random checks happened it was almost always when someone had bought more items than usual (not sure if that actually triggers anything or if it was just coincidence) and the system for looking through everything was frustratingly slow for both me and the customers. I feel like the scanners are a great idea, but the theft-deterrent system for it could use a rethink, though Im not sure what exactly could best replace it

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      Yeah. I’m fine with using them at wal mart most of the time, but the grocery store where I load up at once every other week just went full send on self checkout and outside of being a pita dealing with so many bags and no place to set them without going into the cart with stuff you haven’t even scanned yet, some have a stupid conveyor belt after you scan and if you let like ten items get on it the damned machines locks you out until a worker comes by and unlocks it after the belt has been cleared off. Total piece of junk, but there’s now usually only 1 real person.

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      Is there something weird about how your Home Depot did it? I absolutely love the self-checkout at the Home Depots in my state. They all have the wireless hand scanners so I just pull my cart up, beep beep beep beep beep beep beep and off I go I fucking hated before they had self checkout at Home Depots it always took for fucking ever now I’m in and out regardless of whether I need one thing or 20 things

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    Fuck this bullshit article.

    I fucking love self service. I don’t want to deal with people.

    Just let me buy my stuff and get out. I don’t want or need small talk.

    I want the disgusting supermarket shop to be as cold and sterile as possible.

    I bring my own bag. I’d Honestly rather just scan everything as I go. And just pay as I walk out.

    Current system is stupid. Walk around shop picking things up. Then take everything out and rebag

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      There are stores trialling exactly your preferred method. One of my local supermarket chains has portable barcode scanners on a wall. You pick one up, scan your groceries as you collect them, then take the scanner to a self checkout that links to the scanner. At that point you pay for your items and leave.

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        Best Buy started doing this with their app. I’ve used it multiple times already. It’s so convenient. Scan the barcode with your camera in the app, it adds to the cart, pay when you’re done.

        Anecdotal experience: Unfortunately, products that are locked up create a problem. I went in for two items. One of which was a single RAM stick for laptops. The employee refused to give me it even though I was literally going to pay for it on the spot as I had already collected the other item I wanted. He insisted it goes to the register per policy. I quickly got the barcode as he held it, then paid. “There. Paid for. See” as I showed him the screen. Dude was so annoyed as he handed me the RAM.

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      That system has been a thing for at least a decade in most supermarkets in Sweden, is it not a thing in (I assume) the US?

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        Assumption wrong.

        Although may be correct. I don’t know USA shops.

        In the UK some shops have had them for 10 + years but not all shops. Lidl for example did not.

        Although my current area is NZ. Some shops again do have them but not all.

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        That’s fucking brilliant and would actually make me not hate shopping with a passion. That system just makes so much more sense.

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        Yeah the little self scanner thing you can take around the store as you shop is not much of a thing in the US.

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          My local grocery store does it with their smartphone app. I shop this way almost every time. Bag as I go, then stop at a special self checkout at the end to pay.

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        Note to self. Move to Germany.

        To do list

        Learn German. Get a German job

        Cheap ass rent control. C’mon.

        Bratwurst. Kick on

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          When interacting with the bus driver, make sure to say only “Hallo” when you step in. Technically, this is even optional and only 33% do that.

          When leaving the bus, don’t say anything. It’d be weird.

          And under no circumstances, talk to them between entering and leaving.

          The only legitimate way to talk to them is when the bus stopped, you and the driver are both outside and he or she approaches you first.

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      I stopped using them. It’s always something, requiring me to wait for and deal with people.

      The rack with the mobile scanners is full, and scanner not in the rack is not paying, so flag someone to deal with it.

      The thing double scanned an item, and it takes someone from the shop to remove the scan, so wait and then explain.

      I had a coupon, but the system can’t deal with those. Again wait and explain.

      And because now apparently I’m a trouble maker I get flagged for a random check by the system regularly. Again wait and deal with that.

      On average, it turned out to be less waiting and dealing with people by getting in line at the regular cashier.

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      Scan and Go is becoming very wide spread in Denmark. It’s lovely! Cuts down the time for a quick shopping trip on the way home from work to less than half

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      What you’re requesting is exactly how Amazon fresh works. the cart itself has barcode scanners on it

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      You can do scan and go at Walmart now, if you were previously only using that at Sam’s Club. It’s fantastic.

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      I always use the store app to scan as I shop and just pay at the machines at the exit here in Portugal. Hate shopping any other way.

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    Sounds like low trust society issues to be honest. I only see those systems expanding in Switzerland, and they never use annoying scales or complain about unexpected items, because there aren’t even any sensors for that.

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      Here in Finland handheld scanners have been getting added to more shops, you grab one, scan and bag as you go, and at the end you return the scanner and pay it all at once.

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        One of the regional grocery stores in my part of the US has these (if you have an account). Before I did online ordering with curbside pickup, this was how I shopped. I didn’t understand why it wasn’t more popular. It made checking out so quick. Every twenty or so trips I’d be randomly “audited,” where some poor employee had to rifle through my bags to double check I wasn’t stealing anything.

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          The chance to be randomly audited would put me off from ever using it again. Specially when you know that randomly = you look brown or immigrant most of times.

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            At Giant, I’m pretty sure it’s decided by the system based on some algorithm, not the employee. The one time I was audited, we were in the store for a long time and had removed a few items from the cart after adding them.

            The audit consisted of the employee scanning ten random items and confirming we had scanned them too.

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              When I was using food stamps/EBT, I was audited every time I used the hand scanner at Stop and Shop. Luckily, I don’t have to use food stamps anymore.

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                Well that’s some bull. The software knows what items are covered and which aren’t, so that’s just assuming folks needing help are thieves.

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                  Yeah, luckily an Aldi opened down the street and I started shopping there. I don’t need food stamps now but with the way prices are going…

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              Ah, yes, yes. We’re not racist, it’s the system! It’s an algorithm! I never heard that one before. It’s also a sustym that randomly checks you at the airport.

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                It all depends on how truly random the system is. Each checkout (or ticket, or whatever) assigned a random number between 1 and 20, with 20 meaning audit? That’s non-discriminatory. But it’s also not tuned for the purpose of finding shoplifters (etc).

                When you start adding criteria, they are often at least correlated with discrimination. Food stamps were mentioned elsewhere. Flight history to/from a list of hostile countries for airports. The list goes on. Technically not based on things like race, but it’s a paper-thin distinction in some cases.

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                  How do you know there’s not someone looking at se purity cameras triggering random audits?

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          We used to have this (scan-as-you-shop) at Wegman’s in the northeast US, but at some point they decided to withdraw the program to re-think on it.

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      Can confirm. The only deterrent is the potential for an random bag check by an employee but that never happened to me in years of using self checkout. Some shops have a worker over watching a dozen of stations to help out or just identify suspicious behavior but it’s very unintrusive.

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        I’ve been a checker and have monitored self-checkouts. We get no training or instructions to watch for suspicious behavior. It’s not the job of a checker / cashier to confront people for suspicious behavior, we don’t get paid enough to do so, or to even care.

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          Thanks for the clarification! My assumptions were wrong ^^ although I saw once a lady who tried to leave without paying, but the worker noticed and they spent a good 5 minutes convincing her to put in cash into the machine, which apparently she had but had to look for in her bag for a looong time.

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      Over here it’s a mix, some chains use the scales + sensors, some use simple scan machines. I absolutely hate the scale + sensors, some of them are almost completely unusable and the attendants have to keep running around fixing errors or resetting the ones where people just give up mid-cart and go to a manned checkout.

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      For sure, I use self checkout at at least 5 different places in China and they all work fantastically, including a Walmart.

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      I avoid places where self checkout isn’t available. And, it’s not just me. I stopped counting how many time the cashier is jobless and the self checkout area is full.

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    I love self-checkout. Faster, don’t have to rush because someone is waiting for me, don’t have to interact with people, can easily double check it had the correct price etc. They’re fantastic

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      It’s faster until you need the human operator to keep coming over because the anti-theft sensors keep getting tripped up by false positive readings. Or you need to find some vegetable code that a normal cashier has memorized.

      Self checkout is great when it’s done well, and total shit when poorly executed. And unfortunately, it’s not always just a matter of technology (which normally keeps improving); it’s often a matter of business model: sometimes customer convenience is really important, other times loss prevention (which creates frustration) is more important.

      I’ve seen countless good self-checkout experiences backslide into crap experience because the business felt that a controlled client is more profitable than a convenienced client.

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        Fun fact: PLU’s (Product Lookup Units) are searchable on Google, though it’ll look like you’re just on your phone while at the register

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        I hear this argument frequently but I’m curious how often does this happen to you where you need assistance? I’ve used SCO for as long as it’s been around and I could probably count on 1 hand missing some fingers where I needed help. Sure back in the day with the faulty scales that kept tripping it was rough but manageable. I don’t say any of this with malice I’m just curious if it’s you or if you speak of a lot of people. If it’s the later wouldn’t it just make sense that maybe all the people struggling may just have difficulties with technology as a whole and not just the SCO?

        I truly mean no ill intent or hatred as I ask these types of questions as a way to learn and grasp the realities of others since no one person can know and see all.

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          In the USA at least, any time you buy alcohol, tobacco, or any number of other random things that the retailer decides to flag as requiring ID, then you’ll need assistance from a cashier. Random things include razor blades, compressed air, some herbal supplements, spray paint, butane torches, or any of dozens of other items. Any time you accidentally scan something twice, you’ll need a cashier’s assistance. Any time something rings up the wrong price or any time the UPC doesn’t scan, you’ll need a cashier’s assistance. Also, if you’re buying gift cards, you may need a cashier’s assistance.

          Also, different stores have different machines and different machines work better than others. Many places have ridiculously sensitive machines that freeze up if so much as a fruit fly farts on it. Some places use “AI cameras” to detect theft, which basically the algorithm for that seems to be “If (customer scanned something OR customer didn’t scan something) then (theft, so freeze and call cashier for assistance)”.

          So, the frequency is highly variable. For some stores, I can usually manage to get by with almost never needing assistance. For others, it’s practically every visit.

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            This is an important point. The execution of self-checkout seems to vary widely. I have only experienced poor executions like you described. I think a scan and go system sounds great and I would interested to see one tested at a shop in my area.

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      At my grocery store the line for self checkout is longer than for the registers, so people would very much be waiting for you. And instead of the time the cashier takes to scan all your stuff being out of your control, they’ll judge you personally for being slow instead.

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        they’ll judge you personally for being slow instead.

        If you’re slow because you’re old or disabled, it is what it is. I might even help if I’m up front.

        If you’re tired or something but clearly trying, it is what it is, people judging you are the dicks.

        If you’re on your cell phone, or not paying attention, or so incapable of reading that you have to call over a Walmart employee to tell you that yes, that says napkins on the monitor (actual thing I saw once and yes it’s cuz she couldn’t read, she said so): you deserve the judging.

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        Even with the same lenght line, in here you’d get through much faster because instead of lining up for the one register you’re lining up to several self-checkouts

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          But the people at the self checkouts do it at a fourth of the speed, so it cancels out. Plus the line for the self checkouts is four times as long anyway.

          Although it’s not always easy to predict how long something takes. Self checkout is less vulnerable to someone paying in all nickels or having an issue with their food stamps. I’ll take that chance to not have to stand there and guess what species of banana I’m trying to buy, though.

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            Not here, people at the self check-outs go fast because they usually have less stuff and slower boomers are afraid of them anyway so they’ll be out of your way.

            I’ll take that chance to not have to stand there and guess what species of banana I’m trying to buy, though.

            Here you weight your vegetables, fruits, candies in the shop before you go to the checkout. Apart from Lidl which has either the cashier weighting them for you at the register or you’ll weight them at the checkout. But it’s the odd one out

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              I remember we weighed our own vegetables in Norway in the 90s. It stopped when they got the fancy registers which scanned barcodes and had a built-in scale.

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                I hope they don’t change it here. I like weighing my own stuff. Nicer to check how much I got and no need to remember what sort of tomatoes I got since the number is in the price tag. And no way for the cashier to fuck me over by weighing them as a pricier thing.

                Spanish tomatoes for the price of Finnish ones? Get the fuck out of here! What do I look like, fucking Croesus??

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    Usually I quite like self check

    Except at ALDI.

    Before they put in self check the cashiers sped through transactions at lightning speed. Now they’ve cut the number of cashiers and people sit at SCO slowly scanning and bagging everything…

    It’s ALDI bruh scan that shit and go to the bagging counter.

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      Oh shit, I just started going to Aldi and sounds like I am one of the idiots doing it wrong. The store I am going to seems to be setup same as a typical SCO though. I don’t know that I have noticed a bagging counter. Will be looking next trip I guess.

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        Ah I’m mostly grumbling anyways. The SCOs look the same as anywhere else had I begun shopping at Aldi after SCOs got there I probably wouldn’t do anything different either.

        But famously the cashiers at Aldi were super fast. They don’t bag anything. They just toss it into your cart. They’d often have a spare cart or two and if you had a lot of groceries they’d put it into a new cart for you instead of waiting for yours to be empty. (And also is one of very few places in the US where they let cashiers sit down).

        People who would attempt to bag their groceries while at the cashier (unless they only had a few things and got it done very quick) would attract ire from both the cashier and other customers for holding things up since they’d usually be done scanning before you’d get done bagging. Check this meme: https://x.com/ladbible/status/1270736248546758656 and the replies to it calling them out for bagging at checkout.

        After you checkout, you were meant to go to the bagging counter and bag your stuff (in your own bags or some people use empty display boxes.) The bagging counter is on the front wall of the store right by the exit (see picture)

        But if you notice next time, all the store brand stuff (90% of the stuff there) has unusually large and tall barcodes usually on multiple sides to help the cashiers be as fast as they are.

        Also the SCOs at ALDI are some of the quickest I’ve EVER used in terms of scanning items. It doesn’t need any delay between scans. If I only have one layer of stuff in my cart I usually just scan it while it’s still in the cart using the hand scanner and can be gone in under two minutes.

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    The only people I’ve ever encountered IRL or online that can’t stand self check out are dumbass boomers that can’t figure out how to use them correctly. This article has the same energy as those articles that claim people don’t want to work from home.

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      My only critique of self checkout is, when the machine has an error, or if I’m buying alcohol, I have to wait 5 minutes for someone to come fix the problem because there’s 10 self checkout kiosks, but only one employee tending them.

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        That and if your buying more than 20 items and it’s a scale.you know after about half a cart it’s going to start bitching at you.

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        I just don’t use self checkout when buying alcohol or big carts since it’s too cramped. At least at all the stores I’ve been to the attendant is always available so I never have to wait if something goes wrong. Maybe it depends on how tech savvy the area you’re in is?

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      The machines had problems like 10 years ago, but I’ve had zero problems with them in recent years. Used to be a few of them were always broken and bulk items were hard to find, but now I’ve not run into any problems. They’re great for small purchases, but they’re too cramped for big purchases so the belts are still needed.

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    Ehm, it’s pretty much a success where I’m from. Sounds more like a personal opinion.

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      they back it up with companies rellying heavily on self chekout losing more money

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        Would be curious if that’s actually the case or if it’s just the next iteration of the “organized theft is causing billions in lost profit” from last year that was just BS.

        Reality and the current narrative a C-level is pushing to get the result they want ain’t always all that similar.

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        Not sure about down vote(s), that’s what it says.

        Although here’s my prediction: this is the start of yet another narrative to justify why food prices must go up (to satisfy investors and line pockets).

        Start planting that seed now, “sorry folks, self check out is losing us money, we have to increase prices another 10%!”

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    Oh no, did your attempt to cut labor costs and make shoppers do more of the labor that checkers used to do end up increasing shrink?

    Oh no, how awful for you that you aren’t able to properly afford more *checks notes… Stock Buybacks.

    This is how I imagine retailers complaining about this.

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      Not just that. When self-checkouts were first introduced, the argument was that even with the added shrink, the benefits outweighed the costs of employing an actual person. Now, of course, the shrink rates have no longer made this profitable and shareholders are crying.

      Personally, I’m fine with self-checkout since I can bag my own groceries exactly how I want them and without having to interact with anyone. That said, I will not be stopping for anyone to check my receipt and my items. If they don’t want the possibility of shrink, then they shouldn’t have gone this route in the first place.

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    In my country, it’s a huge success. People love it at the point that even Aldi and Lidl implemented the system.

    But, the huge difference with the US is cultural. People coming here from abroad have a hard time to make local friends. It can take up to 10 years to make one.

    My guess is that people love the lack of social contact more than self checkout itself.

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      If you are talking about Germany, yes. I recently (3 years) moved to Germany and I love the tech. I can avoid having contact with the rude people that usually work at the tills.

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        In the US people working the tills are usually TOO nice and you don’t want to make smalltalk with them. Only in NYC have I encountered rude till people, and even there, most are pretty pleasant.

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        it’s usually better implemented here. i regularly went to a real (the supermarket chain) once, they had one employee manning 4 self checkout machines and one of them took cash. they would open them during lunch rushhour, so all of the people who just wanted a sandwich were out of there within 30 seconds. worked awesome.

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        If the people at the till are rude your problem is probably that you’re living in Berlin.

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    As a customer, I 💕 self checkout: the great divide between fast and slow

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      It surely is. My hobby is to look at a person entering self checkout to remember who they are, as I enter the human checkout. I’m usually bagged, and paid whilst that person on the self checkout is still working through their groceries. The professional human is SO much faster than the self checkout.

      It’s not always the case, but in the vast majority of times it is, so I choose speed over doing it myself.

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        You can definitely tell some stores try to funnel people into self checkout by understaffing cashier positions sadly :( at the good ones I’m always at the cashier line as well

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        All of the local stores here have a mobile scanner which you take when you enter the shop. Then you walk around, take the item you want, scan it and bag it. At the self checkout you put away the scanner, register your card, pay and walk away. This is way faster than regular checkout if you have more than 3 items.

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      I really prefer self-checkout too. There was an initial year or two when the machines were kinda buggy and did that “unexpected item in bagging area” a lot, but you work around it: just never put your shopping bag on the scale. I scan fast and efficiently, and start bagging my stuff while the payment card is doing its thing. And when I bag my own stuff I can be sure the bread is going to be on top.

      The only things I run into trouble with these days: 1. when the backend database doesn’t have the right info, like some produce type is entirely missing, or the only option is for organic(=more $ and you know darn well you’re not going to select that one). 2. Some stores don’t use the barcode on the fruit labels, and you scan the label by accident or out of habit because the other store does use those barcodes. Both situations need a clerk to clear them, and that’s 90% of the delay.

      I wish I knew why Target is limiting to 10 items. It’s pretty annoying. I suspect that theft is what’s driving retailers away from it, rather than customers hating it.

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    Self checkout could be fine, the failure is capitalism/corporations in execution

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      Turns out even under socialism, I’d still rather have someone else scan and bag my things.

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      You would hate the self checkouts around here then.

      Policy seems to be that if there isn’t a queue then they should shut off half of them to save power. So now there is a queue for the self checkouts.

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        Also they just don’t staff the regular check out lines, so your choice is to leave and go to another store.

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      Self-checkout does not make up for stupid people.

      My personal favorites are the ones that scan everything, then start bagging everything, then start looking for their card in their handbag, shoulder bag, backpack, pockets etc.

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      My biggest complaint about self checkout at Walmart (specifically) is that I still have to wait in line! There’s 20-ish self checkout machines of which 15-20 will be working and like fucking forty regular checkout lanes with two cashiers working. So of course there’s going to be a long ass line for the self checkout!

      It’s lane upon lane of wasted space. If you’re only ever going to have 3-4 people working then you should only have 3-4 non-self checkout lanes!

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    This article really sounds like it describes an alternate reality to me. Interesting to see how many people in the comments seem to hate self checkouts but here in the UK they seem to work fine. Shops seem to have found the right balance. In the same shop you’ll have queues advancing rapidly at self checkouts and people run tills with shorter queues for customers who prefer the human interaction.

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    What are they talking about, self checkouts are great. It makes the shopping experience more fair for those with fewer items

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      I feel the people who don’t like self checkout keep trying to push the idea that it’s bad or putting people out of jobs, rather than just admitting it’s convenient for most people. If i want to buy one or two items I don’t want to queue up behind 5 people with a full trolley.

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        I don’t like self checkouts, but not because of that. Probably depends on what chains you go to / where in the world you live, but it was almost always very slow and full of errors for me (most of the time, incorrectly detecting the weight of either side, thus stopping the whole process and making me wait for a human to unlock it). And even if everthing goes well, I have no chance to even reach half the speed that a cashier can.

        The one exception is a clothing store that used RFID tags. You put the items in the box and everything is instantly scanned, no mistakes. If it were like that everywhere, I would much prefer it.

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          I’ve never seen a clothing store using RFID tags before but that’s quite interesting technology. I’ve just done some reading up on it and I hope more places start using it it seems convenient and something I’d like to see adopted on a large scale.

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            It’s pretty great. Though I’m sure it’s built into the price (assuming they’re talking about Uniqlo).

            On the other hand, being able to walk into the supermarket, fill a trolly, then walk through an archway to get rung up…That would be pretty amazing.

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            Don’t know what country you’re in, but Decathlon in the UK (and possibly other countries) does this. There are no traditional manned checkouts in there at all.

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          This is a very good point- consider all of the friction points that make self-checkout slow and cumbersome. How many of them apply to manned checkouts?

          The weight thing is absolutely the most frustrating, and I would put money that it’s not an effective theft deterrent.

          I don’t know if it’s intentional, but the places around me seem to have largely solved the problem of cashiers being faster, by putting the slowest people on earth as cashiers…

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      Especially those ones where you can grab a hand scanner to scan your items as you go, and use it to put everything into the terminal when paying.