What if we took the space constraints of apartment living and subtracted all economies of scale from compact building?
The sad part is I want a small space. But I also want a big yard to grow things and to live in the woods away from people.
I get it, but sub urbs still kinda suck for that. Too dense for freedom and privacy, yet to sparse for transit or cultural events.
Totally agree. I don’t think single family housing is really good or fair anymore. Hell I am not sure I even think humans can own a piece of land. I feel selfish for wanting to be able to buy a house.
So what you want is an apartment with community gardens, maybe rooftop gardens and/or a multi-tier greenhouse interior for an apartment block. (Doesn’t help with living in the woods, but I think we were all born a bit late for that to be practical for most, tho we could rebuild community gardens and rewild our spaces if we condensed housing)
That’s what I want too. I hate owning property and needing to upkeep it and shit, all so I can have growing space and privacy. And I don’t even have much of either.
We can do those things, we just choose not to for… reasons.
I suppose a shed in the woods is not impossible but a lot of factors need to be just right or it gets way too expensive and/or uncomfortable. In Europe, most forests are publicly accessible and there are various tiny settlements but I suppose that’s not the case in many American states.
Just because you slap a second story on your trailers and call your park a subdivision, ain’t mean the tornado won’t find ya!
Oof. Floor plans for first floor. The front door opens to the living room, which looks fine until you realize that you need to leave room for the front door to open, open space at the foot of the stairs, and open space to walk through into the kitchen. And suddenly 2/3’s of your living room is unusable. If you want to eat at a table, it’s going to have to be tucked under the stairs, and you’ll sacrifice any kind of pantry / storage space you might’ve had. I’m also not fond of the idea that guests have to walk through your bedroom to go to the bathroom, nor that the laundry is in the master bathroom either: it can be noisy, and it means anyone else wanting to wash clothes has to pass through the bedroom as well. They’ve tried to disguise that by labeling it as “owner’s suite” instead of “public highway”.
The second floor is essentially just a giant open space with a bathroom tacked on the end near the top of the stairs. The location of the stairs means the second floor is essentially split in half. You might think, hey, we can put a couple bedrooms up here!, but you can’t. The ‘bedroom’ at the top of the stairs also becomes a public highway for the person in the front ‘bedroom’. You could do like a bedroom in the front and a lounge area at the top of the stairs, but at that point the second floor is more luxurious and more private than the “owner’s suite”.
The front yard is essentially a driveway with a little space on either side, and I’m fairly sure the backyard is tiny, with maybe enough room for a storage shed, which you’ll need because there’s minimal storage inside - there aren’t even any closets. The backyard is probably too small for a grill to be legal, because they’re generally supposed to be a certain distance from the house - I’m basing that off the community amenities, which says
Residents are situated just down the road from Converse City Park where there is plenty of open space, walking and biking paths, a playground, fishing pond, BBQ areas and more.
Edit: just checked and “just down the road from Converse City Park” means 3.2 miles. So yes accessible, but it’s not like just down the street and the kids can ride their bikes over.
The floorplan looks ok, except it’s smaller than they’re letting on. The bed in that bedroom takes up a suspiciously small space.
It says that room is 10’ wide, so that’s like a five foot bed… I’d hate to sleep on that!
I lived in a 10’ wide house once. It’s not as terrible as you might think.
Maybe the bed is folding/pullout?
And for some reason they made the second floor span over only half the length of the house. Had they made it full length they would have increased the available space by 33% without affecting the overall footprint. With that extra space they would have been able to shuffle the rooms around and make them far more usable.
I’m all for smaller practical housing. But these need to be designed with practicality and efficiency in mind. This apparent product of an architect-wannabe businessman achieves neither.
TIL shotgun houses are a thing again.
If you find them on a satellite image, you’ll also see the entire development is on the high voltage line right of way, with the lines almost directly above the houses
Oh, how nice …
Oh wow, that’s a horrible design. I was expecting the bedroom to be upstairs and the kitchen/livingroom to span the entire length downstairs.
I can see having one bedroom on the first floor, as it gives more flexibility: you could make it an office, or older people who don’t like stairs could have it as a bedroom and have the upstairs for storage and a guest room. But I’d flip the bedroom and the bathroom/laundry: it makes the bathroom and laundry more accessible without going through the privacy of the bedroom, and gives the bedroom more room for windows (currently only one side of the building has windows, and there are none in the bathroom). Move the upstairs bath as well and it keeps all the plumbing in one section and splits the upstairs into two functional sections which could be separate bedrooms / office / storage / whatever.
Of course, that would mean that neither floor had an open floor plan so it could seem rather claustrophobic, especially with windows only down one side with neighbors right up next to the windows. The front window looks out right onto the parking slab and the high-power transmission lines running down the street. The best ‘view’ is out the back: that looks out onto some retaining ponds (potentially nice), and then there’s a 4-lane road on the other side of the ponds. Except there are no windows out the back of the houses, so you’re entirely missing out on the one potentially nice view. Yeah, I’d flip the bedroom and the bathroom/laundry, and I’d put windows looking out the back there - hell, maybe even a sliding door or something, make it easy to access your tiny backyard, have a cup of coffee out there or something.
3.2 miles
That’s 5 km! Such a (relatively) dense development should be the first housing next to the park, second only to amenities and public transit access to the public space.
That would be Socialism! You can’t expect us to care about the poor or elderly or disabled!
No, this is Poor People Housing: tiny homes on small plots stuck onto leftover land behind a ‘real’ development, underneath high-voltage power lines, next to some retaining ponds and a four-lane major commuter route. There’s not even enough poor people there to justify their own bus stop, though they might get added in if they’re already on an existing route and it won’t affect the sacred timetables too much. There’s some commercial space on the corner; if they’re lucky they may get a Dollar General or other poor- person store, otherwise every place they need to get to will require a car.
It’s so tiny yet they expect you to own 3 TVs. Is this a FreedomTM thing I’m too European to understand?
Well, you need one per floor, and one per bedroom … /s
No, not really all that sarcastically, there are a lot of people who live that way, have the tv constantly on in the background. When I was still living at home, a friend (who always had the tv on, even when she had company over) came to visit me. After a while, she asked why my mom had the tv off in a tiny viewing area way off in an unsociable corner. I said that when my mom had company over, she wanted the focus to be on their conversation and interaction and friendship, not on the TV, and my friend found this to be an astonishing concept.
Nothing wrong with tiny houses, but these look like they’d blow over in a small wind.
They could actually be liveable if you removed the driveway and yard, and added a frequent bus service on every other street, as well as a tram line/subway stop in the neighborhood, and a market square with mixed zoning. It could be more thermally efficient, too, with the houses touching. Or just build blocks of flats at this point, they are cheap, dense and not as uncomfortable as shotgun homes. However, I am sure that US regulations would never allow that.
Plenty of townhouses like you’ve described. The same crowd that moves into these houses are the ones that don’t want all the issues you’ve just described in yours.
Pretty sure most don’t have a market square with mixed zoning and trams that get them into the dense city centre in 10 minutes every 5 minutes.
That’s a shed.
Yeah. Pretty sure you can get a bigger one from the big box hardware stores. For way cheaper. You’d still have to finish the insides, though. Not everyone can follow code for frami ng let alone plumbing and electrical. We won’t even get into hanging and mudding drywall.
The American dream was tortured to death, buried, dug up, ground into “dietary supplements,” then sold by Mr. Beast so he could pay poor people to fight over the chance to claw their way out of debt.
Why 2 bath and only 1 bedroom?
Probably 1.5 bathroom. Downstairs toilet only upstairs bathroom for bedroom.Edit: nevermind, saw the layout someone else posted. It’s a shitty house design on top of being tiny.
And the elms of the famous Elm Trails are in another location?
I mean, I would buy that in a heartbeat. Where I live you would be lucky to get a 4th floor 600sqft studio for less than $300,000.
Not saying it’s good, just saying if that’s your nightmare then come to Canada.
It’s a matter of perspective. In the grand scheme of things, that property is worth maybe $1.59.
But it’s listed for $159,000.
That’s the problem.
