• samokosik@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    There is quite a difference between democracy and socialism. For example, while democracy did not work in France, there were several other countries that have proven democracy works. For example, Greece, Rome, or even United States. On the contrary, socialism has been in many countries and failed every single time, no matter the situation. Countries of Warsaw pact tried it and 30 years after it collapsed, the quality of life in these countries is still worse compared to the Western Europe. Similar with countries such as Israel, India, Great Britain, North Korea and many more that have tried socialist tendencies but eventually returned to capitalist economies.

    Same for capitalism, there have been countries that became quite successful thanks to it such as Switzerland, Singapore or Ireland.

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      2 months ago

      So you’re judging historical democracies by their peaks and successes but you’re judging socialist/communist countries by their low points and failures.

      Russia went from a serfdom to a world superpower. It challenged the United States for decades despite losing millions of its population and being absolutely devastated in world war 2 whereas the USA was relatively unscathed.

      These aren’t good faith arguments. You make every argument working from your conclusion backwards.