• Woht24@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    Why do they have to be black? America is bizarrely obsessed with race, I’ve never seen anything like it both in person and on the internet.

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      the democrats have built their entire brand around performative racial justice where everything they do is designed to appeal to different groups. Its super toxic and while I am vehemently anti-racist this tokenization of policy is counter productive and the reason why a lot of people reject the democrats as “racist”

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        Bro, the US wins world champions in racism. There are ethno-nationalists in India that think Americans take it too far.

        It’s also important to note that POC, black people or melenated people (take your pick - i.e Pakistani and some Indians are PoC) are not exempt from being racist.

        In fact, if you suffer racism there’s a chance you’ll then turn racist, because it triggers pack instinct, paranoia, group think - etc. Humans gonna hume. “You’re claiming reverse racism” - bitch, did I stutter? Racism is racism is racism is racism.

        That being said, zoning laws are still CRT based and some neighbourhoods in the US only get the most basic super markets - if even that.

        “All I see is church, church, liquor store” - Black Milk.

        If black people need access to raw produce in areas they can’t get access to it, then I think it’s completely acceptable. Sad, but acceptable.

        I could also see a bunch of Karens buying out the stock so that they can brag that they eat “black produce”, effective depriving black children of proper produce.

        To err is human, and also be awful is human, and also racism… is human, and also (say it with me now):

        Humana gonna hume. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      I would prefer knowing my money is going to people who have been systematically disadvantaged for this nation’s entire history.

      I suppose your post could imply other minorities could be included but the way I read your comment gives off big WLM energy.

      Edit: spelling

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        Dude this is discrimination also. It’s like why do I have to pay for things that my gparents have done? This brings me to other questions such as how long do you will be “systematically disadvantaged”? I have seen those cases with my eyes: Afro has their college fees paid and they got paid for studying. he/her reproved. Do state retired the help? NO. They just had a talk with he/her and keep with aid. Meanwhile my mixed friend had to put gmother home as warrant to get a loan in order to pay the stupid college. I got enough of it.

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          I’m not entirely sure, what you’re advocating for.

          There are Turkish supermarkets, restaurants, döner stalls, and barbers all over the place.

          I also know a Turkish electrician, but I’ll go to him when I need an electrician, not when I need a Turk.

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          Or ask a European about their feelings on gypsies and watch them pull out some of the darkest shit you’ve ever heard.

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              I was originally gonna say Romani but then I remembered this very detail.

              Europe is honestly just as if not more racist than the US

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                We just emigrated to the UK and my daughter is having trouble finding friends… she finally met a kid her age and the kid told her that the N-word isn’t offensive in the UK.

                Fucking what? (Yes, I know it is just as offensive here.)

                And we lived in Indiana, the Middle Finger of the South, where the KKK was re-formed in the 1920s.

                So now she has to start all over again finding friends. She was pretty upset and I don’t blame her.

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            As long as they aren’t assholes idc, I have had white/white-ish (if you consider Spain generally white, which some do and some don’t lmao) “friends” that are way worse than gypsies or moroccans (which are other ones that are mentioned often).

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      Sure, it can seem on the surface like wanting to support people of a particular race is in itself a kind of racism, or at least a situation that emphasizes unfair distinctions.

      Unfortunately, race does still matter in America, even if we personally disagree with it or want to ignore it. The health and economic research data make it very clear that people of color in America, especially black people, experience harder lives in almost every category. This is due to both recurring experiences of present-day prejudice and discrimination, as well the inter-generational impacts of wealth inequality and psychological trauma.

      You might already know about this, but redlining is one example of the way that patterns of discrimination can creates a systemic effect, which, in turn, can impact the physical and financial effects on a family across time. These kinds of systemic effects can then make it harder for current generations of these families to recover and live safe lives today though, we personally might celebrate that the policy doesn’t exist anymore, and even though we personally might say that we don’t support people acting like that anymore.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining

      No one really has to do anything, but some people might choose to support groups of people or organizations who they think might have experienced similar kinds of hardships in their families, and might be glad to have a way to try to do something different with their money than give it to another multinational corporation every time.

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        12 hours ago

        Right but as far as I understand it the supermarkets and wholesalers screw all farmers over equally race isn’t a consideration.

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        Yeah I’ve heard these arguments. I still hold my opinion. America needs to move away from the race obsession.

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              As in

              • Not talking about race will solve the lingering systemic race issues, or
              • There are no lingering systemic race issues, so we should stop talking about it?
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                Oh no the US is a shitshow of systemic racism, like super ridiculous on every level. There is such a wild undercurrent, surface levek and then an even weirder like super liminal racism where it just has to be mentioned.

                Watch like any late night and they will make a self depricating white person joke, middle aged white guy thing. Just stfu about all of it, address the systemic issues with actual actions and then just you know…live as neighbours as americans.