• Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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    Gaming. I’ve seen it get progressively worse and worse over time. Gamers are some of the most entitled and whiney people I’ve met.

    Game puts out 58fps instead of 60? Trash. Throw it out. Start a media campaign about how shit the devs are at their jobs

    Game is only just “fun” and isn’t an absolute masterpiece like RDR2? It doesn’t matter, since it isn’t better than the literal best game ever made it’s trash. There is zero middle ground. Burn an effigy!

    Game sequel changes anything from the previous? Burn down their offices! Games shouldn’t take risks! What do you mean all we have now are boring games from companies afraid to take risks?!

    And we haven’t even started with the freaking gatekeeping

    Now I’m not defending game companies, god knows there’s blame over there, but ffs I’m tired of gamers. I’ve been flamed over having opinions like enjoying a game.

    For example. I liked Veilguard. I honestly did. It wasn’t a perfect game, it wasn’t a RDR2, but I enjoyed it and I found it a good value for the money, and I don’t care that it wasn’t like Origins. Watch the hate roll in folks.

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      Gamers have become total suckers as well, and on the whole are not very good with their money. From always pre-ordering to season passes to oceans of memorabilia.

      Hardware has especially suffered. There used to be a time when gaming attracted technical people and there were brilliant forums and in depth review sites for hardware. Now most of those are dead with only a couple good ones left because everyone figured out you can just slap RGB lights on your product and call it a day. Gamers will buy it.

      Prices go up and up, quality goes down, control over the product goes down, improvements per generation go down. But man there’s never been more flashy marketing and lights.

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        Gamers chairs are the best example of that. Some neon pleather on a piece of plywood and they slap $600 pricetag on it. Meanwhile a sturdy $300 mesh office chair will actually support you for hours a day for 10 years, but kids don’t think it’s cool

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          Exactly. They’ll be spending countless hours sitting in it, so does it look to the office chair for an ergonomic design and spiff it up a bit? No, how about a stiff race car seat that hugs you through all those turns you’ll be taking… that makes sense.

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      You’ve obviously never been a part of the stardew valley community. It’s incredibly wholesome.

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      One thing that’s gotten a lot worse is the hate for everything, I’ve unsubscribed from several of my formerly favourite YouTube gaming channels because they’ve gotten more and more about just hating on everything. Every game that isn’t perfect gets dragged through the dirt and people love it and join in. And comments anywhere on the web about any game are generally 80% hate and pessimism. And if you dare to say you like whatever game the topic is about you’ll get down voted and told you’re an idiot and/or shill.

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        Complete same. Everyone I talk to who hates game X seems to have heard it from some shitty youtuber. “Well X person said it’s not good and it’s shit”. Great, have you played it? Steam has a pretty great return policy, go try it for yourself.

        They hardly ever do. They shit on something left and right while never actually trying it, and exactly that. It can be a decent game, but if it’s not perfect it’s just hot garbage. In another thread literally right now I’m being flamed for liking Veilguard. God forbid someone has an opinion they differ with on something as small as a video game.

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      100% This.

      So steam has the little update ribbon for games in your library, and recently one popped up for The Outer Worlds in my feed. I thought it was odd since it’s not a new game anymore so I checked it out and it was for some reason just the announcement for Outer Worlds 2. Thought that was odd too since that also happened awhile ago so I went to the discussion thread to see if there was an update to the announcement or something and I got to reading the comments. It was just the most toxic and vile cesspool of comments. Literal mud brained comments like “no woke game, no DEI this time, this game bad because I can’t fuck the asexual brown girl and she should be white anyway because that doesn’t make sense in outer space” and other vile bigoted shit. Like seriously guys? You hated the game so much that you have to spew your ignorant garbage brained thoughts on an announcement thread for the sequel? Fuck me these people are just the absolute sludge at the bottom of the barrel.

      I’m all for protesting a game because the company is evil (you know which ones are) but holy hell people, the vast majority of the comments were not that at all. Just fucking go play something else. There are a hundred thousand other choices for any respective genre of game. Please just all of you fuck off.

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        I assume they updated the game with an advert banner for the sequel in game if you’re curious why it’s an update and not announcement.

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        It’s just absolute vile, and even if you put aside the pure racism and sexism they have, they still bitch. It leaves me wondering, do they even really like gaming anymore? Really, just truly maybe they don’t enjoy it anymore. Then hey, just move on and find a different hobby

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      I crank up the graphics settings as high as I can get them while getting at least 20fps consistently. I do think some games are just badly optimized though.

      I also liked the original state of Minecraft dungeons and even got the first DLC when it was on sale but then they turned it into a grindy season based thing with subscriptions, yet another program ruined by Microsoft.

      Apart from this I don’t really have any strong opinions about games and don’t really get why people behave like that.

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      Game puts out 58fps instead of 60? Trash. Throw it out. Start a media campaign about how shit the devs are at their jobs

      To be fair, they’re not entirely wrong about this one when it comes to current-gen games. They’re wrong for their dickish entitled opinions, but they’re not about how modern titles are requiring far more resources to run compared to the gains in visual quality.

      And I’m not complaining about that because I think people are entitled to games meeting some bullshit metric like zero-latency with better-than-life quality on 8 year old hardware. For accessibility reasons, I legitimately can’t play modern “AAA” games targeting 30 frames per second. It makes me suffer from severe motion sickness, and there’s something about newer games that make them a lot worse (frame blending? Bad frame pacing?). The only thing that seems to help is running at a higher framerate, and it’s getting increasingly difficult to find big-budget games that don’t either rely on using upscaling and frame generation and/or a $1600 graphics card to achieve that.

      That’s not to say the developers are bad at their jobs. Rather, the industry trend seems to be that publishers are demanding more content in less time, and games aren’t being given the time and budget needed for optimizing them before release.

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      Not to mention that gamers tend to have the shittiest politics. Idk what it is man, but over the last decade and a half I’ve watched Steam Discussions go from a dry and somewhat elitist gamefaqs to one of the worst cesspools on the internet by far, and it has a freakin’ swear filter, who tf would even risk their steam account going around talking smack like that I dunno.

      A good community in a game is like finding the fucking higgs boson, you know when mfing warframe, known for having a great community back in the day - so much so it’s a selling point brought up by reviewers and it’s even basically expected that you will ask randos for help - turns the main chat (region chat) off by default then things are just… Not great.

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        I think this varies wildly depending on the game. In my experience indie game communities are often pretty chill. (Rock and Stone!)

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      I used to play DotA2. Some lobbies were fine. The memorable ones were incredibly toxic. I played for a couple of years, so it must have been fun, but all I remember was the racism, cruelty, and bitchiness in voice chat.

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      Starting with games like Rad Racer and RC Pro Am on the NES, I must have put 10s of thousands of hours into hundreds of different racing games over the years. But try to talk to anyone about it, and it’s all gatekeeping all the time.

      “Your favorite is too arcade-y for a real fan, noob.” “You turn on anti-lock braking? You aren’t sophisticated enough to join my clan, peasant.” Shit like that. I’m sure lots of other genres have similar fuckwads that think they are the gods of the gaming world.

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      Capital G Gamers are the worst! It’s fine to not enjoy something, but Gamers seem to spend more time getting upset over literally everything than actually playing video games. They also don’t acknowledge that indie games exist. They’ll complain every game now has microtransactions but pretend not to see the thousands of indie games that don’t have any.

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        If an indie game can’t rival the best AAA experience for a cost of no greater than free to $5, it’s garbage. It also needs to be lengthy to keep me entertaned for an indefinite period but also not too long. And there can’t be any DLC or microtransactions, but I need free content updates for at least 10 years.

        If I don’t get all of these, I’ll give a review of “zero stars, trash game, do not recommend (550 hours played)”

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      All the Dragon Age games have their own charm, but ultimately it’s EA so… ew.