MOSCOW, June 23 (Reuters) - Russia said on Sunday that the United States was responsible for a Ukrainian attack on the Russian-annexed Crimean peninsula with five U.S.-supplied missiles that killed at least five people including three children and injured 124 more.

The Russian Defence Ministry said four of the U.S.-delivered Army Tactical Missile System (ATACMS) missiles, equipped with cluster warheads, were shot down by air defence systems and the ammunition of a fifth had detonated in mid-air.

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    I know this whole message is preaching to the choir but:

    You guys managed to find like the one time in history that US military ordinance killed civilians that unequivocally wasn’t our fault, when they were attacking a clearly military target under occupation from a clearly malicious invading force

    And you are, predictably, complaining like it’s our fault you put the airfield right next to a fucking public beach and then didn’t sound any kind of warning that it was under active bombardment and knocked one of the missiles off its military target and it fell on some people

    Pack up

    Go home

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      Russia is also claiming they shot down 4 missiles. Their track record suggests that’s unlikely. This whole story reeks of bullshit. Lemme know when literally any other country reports civilian casualties and then I’ll care.

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        I wouldn’t be surprised if Russian forces went out to the beach after the attack and bombed it themselves, just so they could get this story

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    No Russia is completely responsible, if they hadn’t occupied it, Ukraine wouldn’t have to fight to get it back. Fuck Russia your rhetoric is stupid. The Russians are the Nazis and Putin will die in a bunker.

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      …I’m hoping for Putin to be brought in and put on alcatraz. Yes, I know it’s been abandoned as a jail. I figure fuck it, put him in, lock him up, and then absndon it again. If he lives he lives, if he starves, he starves.

      My guess is on starving.

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        The entire GOP would be on site the next day after his interment to spring him loose and take turns sucking him off.

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          Let them, just also let them know that any boats that reach the island will be immediately sank and any aircraft will be forced down into the water.

          If they live they live, if they starve they’ll starve (or they’ll play weekend at Donner’s).

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            Except one place for next friday (fake ofcourse) to see them killing each others from within.

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        May he despair so he wish to commit suicide, but be in prison so he is prevented from doing it.

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    Putin can choke a fat syphilitic dick. Arm Ukraine to the teeth and launch an earnest hybrid war against the blyats. Fuck russia.

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            …man, I always hate when comments are removed by mods. I always assume it was the worst, like a nazi trying to build up hate and promoting using atom bombs or something.

            And then sometimes I find out it’s something mundane.

            I want to know what he said, so I can eat popcorn, and watch the drama…but it’s probably too tame to warrent popcorn.

            I guess what I’m saying is, why don’t we make a popcorn community, so you guys can share your popcorn reciepes…and if you want to share juicy gossip about that bitch at work from HR, so be it…

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              Best part is it was mundane, it was a account made within the hour and speedrunning to get banned. Was really hoping this place would be much better than reddit. Needs more cat subs tbh.

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    I know everyone’s here dunking on the hypocrisy of Russia making this complaint and that is valid but it’s still sad this happened and I personally don’t think the US should be distributing cluster munitions which are inherently more dangerous to civilians.

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      USA shouldn’t be producing/using cluster shells in the first place.

      The end doesn’t justify the means

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        Maybe if Russia wasn’t in Crimea, they wouldn’t have to worry about getting bombed?

        Crazy idea

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            Russian news sources really can’t be trusted, but assuming it is true, it’s certainly a tragedy that civilians were hurt. And I wish they hadn’t been.

            The solution though is for civilians to leave Crimea. They are on illegally seized land, not wholly dissimilar to Israeli settlers. It isn’t their fault that their children died of course, but they need to leave the area. Issue is, Russia probably won’t let them, because they’d prefer civilian casualties to occur.

            It’s also kinda rich of Russia to complain about this after they’ve bombed, killed, and orphaned countless Ukrainian kids. They’ve even kidnapped some of them. And from what I recall happened in Mariupol, they might’ve even done ethnic cleansing. It doesn’t excuse Russian civilians being killed, but Russia has absolutely no legs to stand on here.

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            In your attempt to piss on Russia, they claim you killed civilians. Piss should no longer be produced, it’s too dangerous.

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        I believe the US isn’t creating more of these, and they are used in Ukraine because it’s their choice to deploy these munitions on their land

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          Us basically never uses em anyway. I think they fired less than 100 during the whole GWOT. Ukraine is getting old stock that was going to have to be decommissioned soon. And let’s be really real here. They are FUCKING Russia up. One of the first batch wrecked a shitload of helicopters. Subsequent ones have hit other airfields and critical equipment. There’s a video of a single missile taking out 3 or 4 S-400s. Catastrophic cook-offs.

          I’m not convinced this whole thing isn’t bullshit by Russia to turn public opinion against ATACMS just because they’ve been so effective primarily because they can’t fucking intercept them. In the video I mentioned before, their best air defense platforms fired 6 total missiles to intercept ONE and FAILED. This article claims 4 ATACMS shot down. Not a goddamn chance that’s true. It’s more likely Russia accidentally bombed a civilian area like they have several times already.

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        Yeah that’s true too, I was kind of focusing on the direct impact here but they don’t have a place in any conflict.

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    The US it’s never responsable for anything, less if it has to do with war, the US is always a victim.

    Just look at the historic speech.