• gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    How about, you know, actually let her create and execute foreign policy before you judge her. She’s clearly started distancing herself from Biden’s carte blanche approach, but it’s not a good idea (electorally) to move to fast on that front, because AIPAC throws a LOT of cash around.

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      3 months ago

      I deadass told everyone Biden was gonna copycat Obama’s policy because he was a VP with no plan of his own.

      He did exactly that.

      How tf is Kamala going to magically gain a moral conscious overnight, let alone a functioning policy plan that isn’t going to be a copy of Biden.

      Especially considering she was the least popular candidate in 2020.

      30 years of snake oil promises from literally every president and yet people still fall for the ol “let’s give them a chance to prove themselves”

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      3 months ago

      actually let her create and execute foreign policy before you judge her.

      So we don’t get to criticize a candidate before they take office?

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        3 months ago

        If you want to criticize them on their previous actions sure. But she isn’t the one sending the bombs. And her only actions so far have been to call for a ceasefire. Making up conversations between her and the Israelis isn’t criticizing her, it’s propaganda.

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            3 months ago

            The protest organizers let people march with Hamas flags and icons. That’s not acceptable in the current political climate.

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                3 months ago

                Hamas Flag

                Palestinian Flag

                Any questions?

                You’re barking up the wrong tree. I understand Hamas as a resistance organization to nearly a century of military occupation, apartheid, and ethnic cleansing. All for the purpose of some 16th century colonialist idea of racial superiority.

                But America ain’t there yet. So flying the colors of Hamas, spray painting their name, and wearing the red triangle are all things that force politicians to respond in a specific way. And unless someone figures out they were infiltrators or the photos were photoshopped then the organizers screwed up. When I marched with pro Palestinian groups earlier this year the organizers were on top of preventing that.

                The biggest thing we can do going forward isn’t to lament a boiler plate statement, it’s to educate people on why Hamas exists in the first place.

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                  3 months ago

                  Okay, so when I searched before I didn’t find any Hamas flags in the protest. Google is fucking garbage these days.

                  Mea culpa.

                  That said, she didn’t have to condemn everyone. She’s running against Donald “very fine people on both sides” Trump. He knows he needs to speak to the extremes in his base to win, it’s why he got even more votes in 2020 than in 2016, and she needs to speak to her own base too. Instead, she threw the baby out with the bathwater.

                  Whatever. Maybe she’s just a coward and not willing to take a stand that would get attacked in the media. There’s a reason she won’t use the words “genocide” or “apartheid” or “settler-colonialism” or “war criminal”…

                  Let’s see who her VP is, because if it’s Josh “volunteered for the IDF” Shapiro then it’s clear as day she’s pro-genocide

                  (As an aside, flying Hamas’s colors does help to educate people about anticolonial resistance - it’s provocative, not wrong)

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                    3 months ago

                    That said, she didn’t have to condemn everyone.

                    Then it’s a good thing she didn’t, and specifically singled out pro-Hamas sentiment.

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                    3 months ago

                    Trump got that name trying to split that hair. And yeah I get the difference between the groups. But the entire point here is the American electorate at large doesn’t.