Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu issued a message of support Thursday for Elon Musk after the world’s richest man was accused of making a Nazi salute.
Musk “is being falsely smeared,” Netanyahu wrote on X, the social media platform owned by Musk. “Elon is a great friend of Israel. He visited Israel after the October 7 massacre… [and] has since repeatedly and forcefully supported Israel’s right to defend itself against genocidal terrorists and regimes who seek to annihilate the one and only Jewish state.”
Musk later thanked Netanyahu.
Mussolini supports Hitler.
This is essentially: “As a black man, those white hooded robes and burning cross definitely aren’t racist imagery!”
He is a nazi without a foreskin.
Someone lost his job with that joke. Is that you Guillaume?
Démasqué
Israel is full of fascists, so no surprise they’re carrying water for a Nazi.
Oh a member of the Likud party is good with Nazis. That tracks.
We shouldn’t have killed the fucking gorilla, man.
Not everyone waved their dick in salute to our Gorilla friend.
Nazi defends nazi
So he can’t watch a video? How the hell is a jew a nazi collaborator?
Unfortunately it’s far from the first time
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_collaborators_with_Nazi_Germany
One such case: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ans_van_Dijk
Insane
So… nazi salute in now welcome in israel?
🤨
Billionaires are always welcome, I guess Elon could shit in his mouth and he’d say “Thank you may I please have another?”
Shit’s getting reaaally absurd.
The simulation has gone off the rails, might need to reboot the server soon
Someone loaded the nazi mod for funsies, but it turned out to be a virus.
We have roughly a vigintillion years before the reboot
That’s so messed up but I also can’t blame anyone who took the deal to escape Germany
Clown world
Oligarchs are all in the same big mentally-ill sociopath club. They know they’re the devil and they revel in being evil. They only care about wealth and power, and their only common goal is keeping the proles fighting each other, instead of dragging them into the street and making them pay for their crimes; for the irrevocable damage they’ve done to all of us, and our societies.
I’m not convinced most of them actually believe any of the horseshit they spout. Their words are just a means to achieving their goals.
Oh I know they’re all amoral hypocrites. I was more referring to the fact that they can spout such blatant hypocritical nonsense and the rest of the world just goes along with it.
Ah, the “better to reign in hell” type
That’s telling us pretty much all we needed to know about the whole Gaza situation, if anyone still had doubts about it. Far right extremists, Nazis, fascists, whatever you want to call them.
Oh wow, fascist 1 defends fascist 2 and says that they’re not fascists… who woulda thunk it?
What does the word fascist mean according to you?
After getting a thorough definition, i gotta ask, what’s it mean to you…?
You see, Trump has to come out and openly say he is building a fascist regime and fly swastikas and call it the fourth Reich. These people have a reduced cartoonish understanding of history and political and economic systems. So unless reality matches their cartoonish notions then it doesn’t count. And even then they will be twisting themselves into knots trying to explain how it’s not ackchually fascism same as people are doing now with denying Elon Musk doing a very clear nazi salute
Trump has to come out and openly say he is building a fascist regime and fly swastikas and call it the fourth Reich.
Exactly. I’ve seen some mental gymnastics that would make Cirque members writhe in agony. “How can it be genocide if there’s still Palestinians?” or “Israelis are Jewish, they can’t be Nazis” and on and on.
A fascist is someone who believes in a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition.
Lets see, nation over individual? Yup, very much so
Centralized autocratic government? Yup, see DOGE.
Dictatorial leader? Given that trump openly admires dictators and that musk supports him, also yup.And the economic regimentation has been going on for a while now. (the rich become richer, the poor become poorer and have far less power)
The denial of the existence of trans people already means a social regimentation. So that’s another check mark.The suppression of opposition: See what’s happening in Texas by their team members of the republican party, where they’re trying to oust the Democratic party from major political roles in committees and such.
I’d say, it’s valid to call these people fascist.
Especially Nazi Saluting Musk, who supports openly fascist, former leader of Reform UK, Tommy Robinson in the UK, the very fascist AfD in Germany (so extremely far on the right, that even far right-wing French politician Marine Le Pen distanced herself from them)
Dont forget the obsession with masculinity
And their desire for traditional gender roles.
And where the distinction between business and government gets very vague. Musk standing next to Trump on the podium is a clear sign how far conflict ot interest has been launched out the window.
fascist also see compassion as weakness
According to me it means what it means. You’re free to look that up on sites like wikipedia.org and google.com and as well as in the dictionary, you can then read papers and theses and essays to your heart’s content on “national socialism” or “Naziism” or “fascism” or any number of related concepts.
Consolidation of industry and government is one of the textbook definitions that was given to me in school. We are seeing it now as we speak.
Among many other aspects that were covered by other comments.
Well, time for everyone to put support for Israel in their bio and start sieg heiling around Jerusalem, see how long it takes before double standards are applied…
Nazi defends other Nazi. More at 11.
Serious question, if Netanyahu is a nazi why isn’t his government fascist? Literally 10% of the population of Israel was protesting him in 7/2023 demanding his removal and the Israeli state just let the protestors continue living. If Bibi is a nazi why didn’t his government pursue that population?
Netanyahu is a corrupt piece of shit. Him taking bribes from Musk is more likely than Netanyahu being a nazi.
His government is fascist.
The definition of ‘fascist’ is somewhat more complex than ‘a person who murders 10% of his county’s population due to political differences’.
Do you think there weren’t people against the Nazis in 1930s Germany? The bulk of them weren’t killed either, so I guess by your logic Hitler also wasn’t a fascist or a Nazi?
No, it isn’t. You can be a genocidal apartheid nation and not be fascist. The USA was one for decades before fascism was conceived.
Hitler was a fascist because he espoused a fascist ideology. Netanyahu does not do this. Netanyahu is promoting genocide and apartheid but both of those are not at all unique to fascism. France was doing things like this back when they were a monarchal empire.
Please learn what fascism is so you know how to properly identify what it is. The current US administration is giving a clear example of it.
Sounds like you don’t know what fascism is.
Alternatively you can all be incorrect which is the truth.
For fuck’s sake fascist states are authoritarian and Israel has free and fair elections. Again being an apartheid state does not make you fascist.
I guess we’ll see if those elections happen this year.
That is a lie, Israel does not have a free and fair elections. It takes two min to find out about this lie, writing it down in a comment wouldn’t achieve anything.
Then provide a valid source please
Fascists have an order of operations, they don’t just round up all their enemies at the same time. First they attack their greatest opposition, which in Israel’s case is the Palestinian resistance.
If they ever managed to crush the resistance they’d start going after the other enemies of the state.
Just to make sure I’m not missing a joke or something, you are declaring the, I can’t believe I am writing this, Prime Minister of Israel of being a nazi?
I am drunk and hopefully missing something and apologies if I am.
It feels crazy but yeah - PM of Israel is defending a person giving a Nazi salute. Said PM also involved in genocide.
Can’t make this shit up
Again, to be clear you are declaring that Bibi Netanyahu, is a nazi?
(Sorry, this is about the funniest shit I’ve seen in awhile.)
Netanyahu is obviously not building gas chambers to gas the jews, but he is overseeing exceptional brutality being done to a group of people, most of whom are innocent. Nazism isn’t only about jews, it’s about all minorities or other ethnicities than the own one more broadly. Apart from the jews, the Nazis also killed a lot of polish people and anyone they deemed ‘deviant’. Just because ‘Nazis killed jews’ is the only piece of information that stuck to the cultural zeitgeist doesn’t mean it’s the only thing you should focus on when determining if someone is a Nazi or not.
Nazis were also famously fascist, had no elections, had a strong security system to squash internal dissent and brooked no protest, none of which apply to Israel.
I get the appeal of labelling things you oppose as nazis but you can’t just pick and choose what aspects fit and then apply the term nazi, it just makes us look dumb.
When someone gets banned from a site and complains that site is run by nazis, if we’re using your standard of picking and choosing then that person is as correct as you are as the site is allowing no dissent and removing those who do. But in reality (I pray) we both look at that person and think less of their complaint because of the silliness of their comparison.
Same thing here. Use words that are accurate, genocidal would be a fair one if you believe it but nazi, it just makes you look fucking silly.
I wish I could upvote this harder. The Jewish people were subjected to horrific evils, but that wasn’t just going to stop with them.
Society did a great job of teaching about the atrocities except to really hammer home that it was the “other” that was the target, not just that single group; they are the first, but wouldn’t be the last if the Nazis were allowed to continue.
It didn’t just stop with them.
Slavs, gypsies, LGBT people (I guess this one actually happened before Jews), some war prisoners, Communists, blacks, etc were targeted and holocausted too.
That’s a good callout on me! I didn’t mean to insinuate it was only that group one at a time, so thank you!
And yet when 10% of the population of Israel were out in the streets demanding his removal in 2023 the government did nothing to the protestors. That’s decidedly not fascistic. Israel might be horrible but they aren’t currently fascistic.
They shot and killed protesters in 2024. In any case, that isn’t the deciding factor when considering if something is fascistic or not.
If the state isn’t authoritarian they aren’t fascist. Israel is a democracy.
They shot and killed protesters in 2024 you wacko, not to mention that is not the deciding factor.
It’s a sad truth and I’m not sure why it’s funny
They are.
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Yes. Zionists are nazis. It’s not hard.
Racist, expansionist, genicodal fascists heavily into ethnic cleansing and lebensraum. Sound familiar?
It was never about the specific ethnicities, it was about power. Back in the 1930s, Jews made a convenient target - they were isolated and ‘other’ enough, and they were slowly gaining equality.
The nazis were able to exploit the fear and resentment this caused, declare Jews the great enemy, and ramp up to a campaign of extermination to bolster their power and give cover to their ongoing invasions.
These days, Jewish people aren’t occupying the same social niche. You can’t exactly get people to riot about Elaine, after all.
However, LGBTQ (especially T) people make a fine substitute in the US, as do Latinx people.
And in Israel, they have the Palestinians to pick on.
It’s the same game, same tactics, same everything - only the specific names change.
So one being nazi has to hate jews? He can’t be a nazi if he hates something else, but otherwise acts like one?
If you mean literally a “spiritual member” of original Nazi party, then yeah probably, although nazi-germany was also exterminating other groups they saw as genetic garbage.
Definition of a nazi has changed a bit and somewhat fused with general facism.
Yes. That’s exactly what I’m saying. You understood perfectly.
Okay… Because I’m morbidly curious I guess, uhhh, what exactlt do you think nazis are most famous for? Like if you had to guess say one or two policies (hint, they might have affected gas prices?)
Are you aware that Nazis targeted more than just Jewish people? They rounded up and killed gay people, Romanis, Slavs, and anyone else who wasn’t part of their chosen in-group.
So to answer your question: Nazis are most famous for rounding up and killing millions of people whom the Nazis felt were subhuman. They were famous for working to create an ethno-state.
They were also famously fascist, had no elections, had a strong security system to squash internal dissent and brooked no protest, none of which apply to Israel.
I get the appeal of labelling things you oppose as nazis but you can’t just pick and choose what aspects fit and then apply the term nazi, it just makes us look dumb.
When someone gets banned from a site and complains that site is run by nazis, if we’re using your standard of picking and choosing then that person is as correct as you are as the site is allowing no dissent and removing those who do. But in reality (I pray) we both look at that person and think less of their complaint because of the silliness of their comparison.
I’m very well aware of the Holocaust, thanks. Not only is it taught in schools extremely extensively where I live, but I have family near Kraków, and I’ve been to (relatively) nearby Auschwitz 4 or 5 times.
You’re obviously hinting that someone who is Jewish cannot be a Nazi, but that’s categorically untrue.
There were Jewish Nazis in 30s/40s Germany/Austria, and there are Jewish Nazis today.
Netanyahu is genocidal. He is racist. He is trying to create an ethnostate. He is expansionist. He talks of getting rid of undesirables. He defends people literally doing Nazi salutes.
He is a Nazi.
Nazis were also famously fascist, had no elections, had a strong security system to squash internal dissent and brooked no protest, none of which apply to Israel.
I get the appeal of labelling things you oppose as nazis but you can’t just pick and choose what aspects fit and then apply the term nazi, it just makes us look dumb.
When someone gets banned from a site and complains that site is run by nazis, if we’re using your standard of picking and choosing then that person is as correct as you are as the site is allowing no dissent and removing those who do. But in reality (I pray) we both look at that person and think less of their complaint because of the silliness of their comparison.
Lol you’re either trolling or are a giant moron who thinks basically that:
if X is most famous for Y, then Y must be the definition of X, which is blatantly untrue in most if not all situations, Steve Jobs is famous for “creating the iPhone” but he never did that, nor is the definition of “iPhone creator” - “Steve Jobs”. It doesn’t even make grammatical sense.
Even on like a blokey common sense level Nazis weren’t even most famous for the holocaust to the average room temp IQ ignoramus, they were most famous for WW2.
Epistemology isn’t jeapoardy and words have meanings that you can easily look up in your free time on websites like google.com and Wikipedia.org or even a dictionary of your choice to start with, all without wasting time of commenters here.
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That’s some impressive silliness.
Instead of mass shooting jews, Israel masd bombed palestinians. Both also used starvation as a weapon amd systematic torture
Nazis were also famously fascist, had no elections, had a strong security system to squash internal dissent and brooked no protest, none of which apply to Israel.
I get the appeal of labelling things you oppose as nazis but you can’t just pick and choose what aspects fit and then apply the term nazi, it just makes us look dumb.
When someone gets banned from a site and complains that site is run by nazis, if we’re using your standard of picking and choosing then that person is as correct as you are as the site is allowing no dissent and removing those who do. But in reality (I pray) we both look at that person and think less of their complaint because of the silliness of their comparison.
Didn’t police beat israeli protesters in Tel aviv for cease fire? Isn’t israeli police always beat anti zionism ultra orthodox.