• Alk@sh.itjust.works
    1871·
    12 days ago

    Also, it’s possible to be priveliged and also understand and sympathize with the problems of other people.

    • hash@slrpnk.netEnglish
      1001·
      12 days ago

      I got my B.S. years early with minimal debt. Working salaried in tech since I was 18. Since I can’t buy a home I know shit is royally fucked and no I will not settle for simply scrambling to the top of my peers. Let’s topple the tower.

      • Soup@lemmy.world
        15·
        11 days ago

        Right? I don’t make a lot but I’m lucky to have support and I do(normally) make more than twice minimum wage. Whenever someone says that I should change jobs if I want more money I seriously consider pushing them infront of traffic.

        My last bosses said, and I quote, “we are not responsible for paying for your lifestyle” in response to a Google Doc I shared showing how the salary they offer for my office job was grossly underpaying me and I was being quite generous. It’s like, what the fuck do they think a salary is? It’s literally the monetary compensation that someone gets which provides the lifestyle that we expect a given job should support.

        All these bosses have been told how special they are for way too long and they seem to think that we actually enjoy working for them so much that our salaries are more like a nice bonus.

        • Test_Tickles@lemmy.world
          5·
          11 days ago

          Something about all the “evil boss” movies of the 80s and 90s really stuck with that generation. It’s like they picked out the lowest of lows from the movie and said “you know what as long as I’m better than that I’m a good boss and people should be happy to work for me”.

          • Soup@lemmy.world
            3·
            11 days ago

            Hell so many of them saw that and went “ooh maybe I can be like that someday!”

            But yea, relativistic morality is a fuckin’ cancer and I hate it and the braindead people who suck so bad at life they need to find excuses like that for their shitty behaviour.

    • LillyPip@lemmy.ca
      7·
      11 days ago

      Also, it’s possible to be privileged and have your life wrecked by this system.

      Just fucking imagine what it’s like to be underprivileged and never have a chance in the first place.

      • Shardikprime@lemmy.world
        31·
        10 days ago

        I’d wager many of us have been both multiple times, over our lives without even realizing it.

        Actually understanding this?, now that’s the first step to truly understand.

        • LillyPip@lemmy.ca
          1·
          8 days ago

          I’ve been in both positions – dirt poor and couldn’t get care, and also decently well-off (not rich) and still couldn’t get care, even with good insurance.

          Now I’m destitute, partly because of health care debt, and am struggling to get any care at all. I seriously feel like the system actively wants me to die.

  • b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    1311·
    11 days ago

    “It’s not the class you were born into, it’s the class you’re willing to fight for.”

    If he was poor the narrative would be he’s just jealous and should have got a job and worked his way up.

    • ZeroOne@lemmy.world
      13·
      10 days ago

      Exactly, when people at the top fight for people at the bottom, you need to show your support Because that person will not be allowed to remain at the top

    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
      9·
      11 days ago

      Yep, I’m reminded of Nina van Zandt Spies an heiress who gave it up to marry one of the haymarket martyrs. Sure of the Haymarket widows she’s no Lucy Parsons, but America couldn’t handle the one of her, much less a second.

      We don’t have a great many stories of people betraying the upper class for the lower, but all who do are welcome among us far more than those who betray our class for the upper are among them.

        • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
          4·
          10 days ago

          Yeah, the whole of the Haymarket affair is fascinating. It was a quick blurb in my history classes in school, but the rest of the world celebrates labor day on its anniversary.

          Lucy Parsons is definitely the most interesting person involved. A freewoman who married a former confederate soldier (who would die for his role at Haymarket) and became a militant activist for anarchism and communism. She was a voice for returning fire on the rich and given her life story even liberals find it hard to blame her for it

  • MTK@lemmy.world
    741·
    11 days ago

    It’s also possible to be in a stereotypical privileged position while still suffering from terrible things such as health issues that are not covered and are costly.

    • intensely_human@lemm.ee
      5·
      10 days ago

      Especially in America, where access to healthcare is gatekept by a special class of people whose permission you need to obtain healthcare.

      Imagine if you needed a prescription for new clothes, and couldn’t buy new clothes until someone else signed a sheet of paper saying you were allowed to buy a pair of jeans.

      That’s not in any way a free market.

  • Donkter@lemmy.world
    512·
    11 days ago

    Evidently you don’t feel as strongly as he did to throw his privileged life away.

    • BlueFootedPetey@sh.itjust.works
      24·
      11 days ago

      Meh, one person’s feelings and how they act are hard to measure up to another person’s feeling and how they act.

      Someone who lost a loved one because of insurance bullshit might feel way stronger than a knowledgeable kid who sees the injustice. And a thousand other viewpoints too, might feel more strongly about it than the shooter.

      • Donkter@lemmy.world
        11·
        9 days ago

        Meh, that makes your point even more invalid than mine. Anyone could do anything for any reason and there’s no real way to know anything for sure. Might as well sit in my room watching paint dry.

          • Donkter@lemmy.world
            1·
            6 days ago

            You can’t compare how anyone feels at all. Feelings are subjective, relative, and are only able to be compared by actions (including words). Even then they are famously difficult to communicate and compare. All I’m saying is that if you’re going down that road you quickly hit the “technically we can’t compare anything” wall.

            So you’re either stuck floating in apathy, being able to react to anything with “meh, we can’t really know anything.” Or you have to infer feelings based on actions and words.

            Hell, I’m not even going to the mat for Luigi in particular, I just thought your response was silly. Actions alone can’t compare how people feel, but unfortunately for us actions alone are all we have to compare.

  • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    371·
    11 days ago

    Well, I’m increasingly beginning to think that that guy isn’t even the Adjuster himself, and we shouldn’t treat him like he is guilty. (of doing such a wonderful thing)

    • bane_killgrind@slrpnk.netEnglish
      161·
      10 days ago

      He’s literally extremely privileged and still suffered from a for profit system, so yes people with less means have it worse.

      He did suffer, but he never became homeless, lived in fear day to day, or had to ration life-saving medications like insulin.

  • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
    15·
    11 days ago

    Apropos of nothing, have you seen the prices of handguns these days? Even the parts for a 3D printed one can run you $900, easy. Fucking ridiculous out here.

  • kyle@lemm.ee
    7·
    11 days ago

    I thought he graduated from the University of Pennsylvania?

    Edit: I’m a moron and it’s literally an Ivy League school. TIL