More dataisdepressing than dataisbeautiful
When I think of all the women & girls in my life that I care about, I remember that I could never be a conservative. It would be a betrayal.
Assuming this is accurate, I’m pleased to see men in the UK bucking the trend.
Maybe not as damning as it looks? I don’t think the message here is ‘men suck’ it’s probably more that liberalism is counter to traditional values and those values have historically favoured men by a wide margin if you’re focusing on power structures.
But then I’m confused by S. Korean men? Wtf is going on there?
I think a factor is just S Korea’s working class being squeezed that much harder than many other places. They’re calling it the “gender war” but it’s all just people being forced to live in unbearable conditions while getting more and more isolated from each other.
Is this… tilted slightly?
Am I leaning?
left-leaning, maybe
Mine curves to the left
As women gain independence, frightened men turn to patriarchal solutions. Hence a turd like JD Vance spouting hateful and controlling rhetoric on podcasts and Ahole Tate brainwashing adolescent boys. Fuck these people.
I’d be curious to see data outside of the “International Community”
What the fuck South Korea? Also you just know that sudden rise in liberal men in the UK is the Tories’ doing.
The Tories are really good at convincing people to hate them, fuck the Tories
As a Transfem, it’s because conservatives suck (granted I despise all forms of liberalism).
Also why the hell is liberlism considered “left-wing” its center right at most.
The people who process these data have limited vocabulary or need to speak to those who do.
Political education in the US and many of the countries that hold these polls is awful. I’d trust a middle-schooler from Cuba, Vietnam, or China more than an ivy-league-educated polysci graduate when it comes to political awareness.
A few folks have mentioned that these charts
- conflate liberal/conservative with the dominant left/right parties in these nations
- does not include people who do not identify with one of those dominant parties
- have some somewhat unreliable stats magic behind them
A lot of young men in the US are reporting themselves as “not a Democrat or Republican”, and that’s causing a lot of this proportional shift. I would bet that characterizes a lot of folks on this site who are not conservative.
https://www.vox.com/politics/2024/3/13/24098780/politics-gender-divide-generation-z-youth-men-women
https://www.allendowney.com/blog/2024/01/28/is-the-ideology-gap-growing/
I wish more people would read Jane Jacob’s system of survival since I think it’s a good breakdown of liberal/conservative. It’s also an excellent book that’s not that long and easy to read.
Liberals are A conservatives are B. Society needs both. Neither are inherently bad, it’s probably more that humans/life/society is cruel by nature.
Moral Syndrome A Moral Syndrome B shun force shun trading voluntary agreement exert prowess be honest be obedient and disciplined collaborate adhere to tradition compete respect hierarchy respect contracts be loyal use initiative and enterprise take vengeance open to inventiveness and novelty deceive for the sake of the task be efficient make rich use of leisure promote comfort and convenience be ostentatious dissent for the sake of the task dispense largesse invest for productive purposes be exclusive be industrious show fortitude be thrifty be fatalistic be optimistic treasure honorExactly. I would be almost as upset with being classified as a liberal or a Democrat as I would be a conservative.
I get classified as all three depending on who I’m talking to.
At the same time I know many people (my brother included) that claim to be “independent” because they think that the trump camp is somehow outside the conservative camp, and therefore respond “independent” on polls. Because they think “I’m not democrat or conservative, I just want to drain the swamp” and then support trump, who is literally a swamp.
What’s the source? I wanna learn about the weird unexpected drops in some countries.
I HATE THE LIBERAL/CONSERVATIVE DICHOTOMY
I HATE THE LIBERAL/CONSERVATIVE DICHOTOMY
shit sucks which primes people for radicalization and The Algorithm basically pushes men to be chud shitheads (which doesn’t really work for women because who is going to listen to “become a baby machine” and think YEAH, BET)
You’d be surprised, until they encounter what that actually means and will mean for them specifically - some conservative women trick themselves into thinking they’ll be given an exemption. Or they really just don’t what it means until someone like Crowder is brow-beating them and not letting them leave
🌳 Die? No. We lost them, and now we cannot find them.
Now I hear Treebeard whining about modern females and how none of them want to be Entwives for alpha Ents
If you read the books, you’ll find that you’re not far off.
Poor Treebeard…
I genuinely fear for future for women across the world
Lol yeah woman were much safer, better educated, and financially independent historically. /S
Read “why women had better sex under socialism, and other arguments for economic independence”
Current trends will definitely continue and there has never been large sociopolitical upheavals in the past, and there definitely won’t be any in the future.
Current trends will definitely continue and there has never been large sociopolitical upheavals in the past, and there definitely won’t be any in the future.
Here, have some unsourced data on subjective tendencies.
Nah, that doesn’t count as data just yet then.
Especially not at a point in time where someone like Trump is said to represent “Conservatism”.
Why won’t anyone date me?
Prolly because you are poor
In more categories than one. Could you be more specific?
Financial and emotional… The order depends on the counterparty’s preference
You were correct before you even answered
