• modifier@lemmy.ca
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    Finally something to celebrate in this general vicinity. Congratulations, Canada.

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      It wasn’t by a large margin… Canadians are turning fascist just like a lot of other countries.

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        Yes, we narrowly avoided going down the Trump route this time, but I don’t find this picture particularly encouraging (NDP, Green and BQ are the three most progressive parties):

        Change in seats between last election and this election (projected)

        Source: National Post

        It’s not straightforward to understand that, since this is a chart of seats not votes, and you can get weird effects with first-past-the-post and strategic voting, but it certainly looks like the electorate is moving rightwards at the expense of progressives.

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          Maybe the left is realizing that they are fighting for really critical human rights, their autonomy and their country, so it’s time to stop splitting the vote among marginal left wing parties?

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            Certainly there’s a lot of strategic voting going on. But you don’t see the Liberal (centrist) seat count increasing as the NDP goes down: the gains are all with the Conservatives. If it were a matter of progressives deciding to just consolidate with Liberals, you’d expect to see the Liberal seat count go up as the smaller parties went down. To me this suggests either that some people are flipping directly from left to right or that there is a general rightwards drift, with right-wing Liberals going over to Conservatives and left-wing strategic voters filling in some of the gap they leave for the Liberals. In either case it’s concerning that when the Conservatives fielded their most far-right leader so far, their share of the seats went up.

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              There’s strategic voting going both ways as some people are simply tired of seeing the Liberals in power, they would have been back the following election if the cons had won.

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        Until social networks are mare criminally liable for the crap they spew this won’t be turned around.

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          They all have to be sued nonstop for slander, defamation, and high treason or else all their leaders and pundits dragged into the streets and beaten to death in front of their kids. Waiting for society to right itself is never gonna happen.

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      Hopefully Australia follows suit, as we have our own Temu Trump in opposition coming into our election.

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    Bro I need gaslighting lessons from PP; how is he losing his riding, losing an election he has polled 20+ points in the lead in for almost two years, and yet gives a speech where he not only says he will stay on as leader, but makes it seem like losing the election was his desired outcome??

    Really sad about Jagmeet and the NDP wipeout tbh. I know why it happened, but if I’m not mistaken the universal pharma and dentalcare we have now were initiatives pushed by the NDP that the Liberals get credit for because they were the ones holding the PM seat.

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      “if I’m not mistaken”

      That’s how the NDP loses, even someone who seems to have a minimum of interest in politics isn’t sure that it was the NDP that got us that. Yes, they forced Trudeau’s hand on that question.

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      but if I’m not mistaken the universal pharma and dentalcare we have now were initiatives pushed by the NDP that the Liberals get credit for because they were the ones holding the PM seat.

      No one who has any political awareness would give the liberals credit for that. That was the NDP’s contribution.

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    lol suck it conservaturds.

    thank you, canada, for not following america’s path to ruin.

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    The big key is gonna be if we get that sweet 172 seats with Lib+Green+NDP, we are only 1 seat short

    If we hit that mark it means, hilariously, the one single green seat is needed to form a majority government without bloc’s help needed

    Which will force liberal party to play ball with NDP and Green Party’s more progressive policies.

    That’s our ideal scenario, conservatives are told to go kick rocks, and green/ndp get an actual voice on decision making to push the country in a progressive direction.

    One. More. Seat!

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      Atm we got it, this is the magic sweet spot where we want to be

      172 seats exactly with lib+ndp+green

      and conservatives can’t even threaten a vote of non confidence with bloc’s help. (1 vote short)

      But they could trigger it with that 1 green seat’s help, which means liberals have to stay on the good side of that 1 green seat XD

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      Currently it seems like there is a highly improbable but mathematically possible outcome where the Conservatives and Bloc Québécois form a government. Canada gets to be the 51st state and Quebec gets to be the 52nd state. 💀

      Let’s get that last seat! edit: typos

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        Bloc have endorsed the liberals already, Quebec is extremely anti trump.

        Bloc aligning with conservatives would be political suicide lol.

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          That’s why I said highly improbable. But if the they became states it would be the end of Canadian politics. It would be all American politics at that point.

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            Somehow I don’t see Quebec deciding anything that favors a party that wants everyone to speak English.

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            I don’t think Quebec will recognize Trump’s rule if he takes control of Canada. It may result in some occupier deaths.

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    I cannot wait to see how the Trump admin will spin this. Either that or they have a meltdown and immediately call it a rigged election. Bonus points if he tells Canadians to storm their capital.

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      They are 100% going to say our election was rigged, and our idiots are going to believe them.

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      I’ll be a little surprised if he addresses it more than a passing comment - the US conservative population doesn’t actually give a shit about canada (unless they’re told to be mad about it for some specific scapegoaty reason, but they’ll just forget. Like they’ve all forgotten about the lumber issues, or eggs, or how ‘canada is killing the US garment industry’ that one was cute…). At this point he’s got enough other things to distract them with, so why waste his very limited attention span on something he’s declared a solved issue?

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        I think it would depend on whether Canada’s new government is willing to play ball. If they’re not willing to kiss Trump’s ass and give America the preferential treatment that he’s trying to extort from the country, there’s going to be more than just a one-off passing comment about it. Probably a woe-is-me “Canada is taking advantage of us” campaign, I reckon.

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        Please, I am begging you, do not make this sheet. Right wing media will pick up on it, the golden one will catch wind of it, and it will become an achievement checklist. Please do not.

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      Daddy hasn’t told them what to say yet and these kinds of outlets don’t know how to think for themselves anymore. And at this point it’s pretty much all news outlets based out of the US don’t know what to say without him.

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      You’d have to be trying hard to forget your media literacy to think that was spin.

      It’s a device that’s saying the Trump issue is the major one in the election. Trump, and how voters feel about him, is what is driving one party or the other to victory.

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        I did read the article and indeed the content is about what you say. On the other hand, I don’t know if titling this as “Canada might be the second election Trump wins in six months” is an attempt at sarcasm, click-bait or spin (pretending not to know the number of people who will only ever read the title). It’s sad that I now I jump directly to believing the latter so I do hope that I’m wrong